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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by Volcatile@hexbear.net to c/news@hexbear.net

Rutland resident Jack Crowther has been a longtime critic.

“You’re putting a drug, a medicine, in our water to treat tooth decay without the informed consent of the people,” Crowther said.

"Mandrake, have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water?" strangelove-wow


"THEY'RE PUTTING MEDICINE IN THE WATER!" frothingfash


Also related, a Richmond, VT waterworks employee secretly lowered fluoride levels in the town's drinking supply for a decade.

EDIT: I should've updated this a month ago, but the town voted to keep fluoride.

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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Its an element not a "medicine". Its found naturally already in the water.

Vermont water system fluoride

5 systems already have >0.60 ppm naturally.

Even more private well systems naturally have over 2.00ppm which is the MCL concern level and reccomend expensive reverse osmosis treatment to remove the naturally high levels of "medicine".

Why test a private water supply?

There are geographic areas in Vermont where the naturally occurring fluoride level in the groundwater exceeds the recommended guideline for fluoride of 2.0 parts per million (ppm). The Health Department recommends a reverse osmosis water filtration system to reduce fluoride exposure to a level less than 2.0 ppm in private water supplies that exceed that level.

It is very important that prescriptions are NOT written for children who may already be receiving high levels of naturally fluoridated water. The only way to know for sure is to test the well water for its level of natural fluoride BEFORE prescriptions for supplements are written.

Bit idea -

Let's call it elemental sicko-hexbear-woke. We are putting the WOKE in the water and turning people WOKE so Joe Biden will win again.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

So you know that fluorosis is something you can get with too much exposure from just environmental sources, and yet you still want everyone to get an uncontrolled dose of it from the tap water. What do you expect people with fluorosis to do, only drink/bathe in distilled water? What do you expect people who need more fluoride do? Start chugging tap water until they get enough?

Isn't it better to just it in the toothpaste so everyone gets exactly the amount they need.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

Severe fluorosis commonly leads to chronic cases of ligma.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It makes all of your bones brittle and joints arthritic. if you wann dunk on me just dunk on me, don't make fun of people suffering from severe illnesses.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Skeletal and dental fluorosis are two very different things. You're describing what happens when you drink contaminated groundwater, or work in certain industries without proper PPE. Properly treated fluoridated water can cause dental fluorosis, which typically just causes cosmetic blemishes on your teeth.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I didn't say you can get it from tap water. But if you do get it from other sources it sucks that now you have to also avoid all tap water.

Also There are places with naturally high fluoride concentration in the water with skeletal fluorosis as a major issue. Guess what happened when burger brains convinced them to fluoridate the water even more? It became a bigger issue.

Just put it in toothpaste.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

There are places with naturally high fluoride concentration in the water with skeletal fluorosis as a major issue. Guess what happened when burger brains convinced them to fluoridate the water even more?

I'm really not getting your point. Water treatment would address this. And if you don't have proper water treatment, you don't have fluoridated water, right?

Are you saying there are places that are incorrectly treating their water? If so, I agree, that should be fixed.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

Fluoride is naturally occuring in water in some places, especially if you use wellwater.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Is wellwater fluoridated?

e: I'm sorry if I am coming across as if I'm asking in bad faith. I'm not. And I'm sorry about my first comment. It was uncalled for.

I'm genuinely struggling to create an image in my head of the exact person you're concerned about. Can we do a Discord call/chat at some point to hash this out? That'd be better than sniping at each other here in public.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Someone who already has high exposure due to environmental reasons (work, they use well water at home, they accidentally drank too much instant tea) having their situation exasperbated when they also drink tap water (imagine if a child uses well water home, tap water at school). Well water has high fluoride because fluoride is a mineral and it's just naturally occuring in a lot of places at high quanities.

Dw you're far nicer than everyone else dunking on me rn. lol

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