Russia had mastered Juche necromancy (hexbear.net)

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[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 29 points 8 months ago

Is there a single scrap of evidence for the claims about Russian casualties? Do the people in charge of NATO actually believe this?

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago

I've had the stance since the beginning of the war that both sides are lying about casualties both taken and inflicted, and we won't know the true cost for years if ever. I thought that the people in charge would at least have access to data that closer aligned with reality, but maybe they've been huffing the propaganda alongside everyone else

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

This is the right take. It's hard to imagine that Ukraine has lost less than 100,000 deaths and 300-400,000 permanent disabilities based on mobilisation data alone. Russia 2-3 times this amount just on the nature of attack vs defence, though now with a better ratio as Ukraine weakens.

But really these are ballpark fugures at best. It could be half this, it could be an order of magnitude more. But it's definitely not Zelensky's 30k.

[-] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

I really doubt that Russia is losing more than Ukraine. Artillery kills 90% of soldiers since WW1 and Russia is massively outshooting Ukraine. Russia seems to be outshooting Ukraine at least 5 to 1. The only time that Ukraine even came close to matching Russian artillery was during the beginning of the counteroffensive.