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Image is of Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia and the fastest sinking city in the world. A new capital is being built elsewhere in Indonesia.


I was going to make Indonesia the COTW anyway (unless something really massive happened somewhere else) due to the elections that might really designate the end of an era in Indonesian politics. Michael Roberts wrote up a big piece on Indonesia about a week ago, one day before the election began, so a lot of this information is coming from him.


Indonesia has been ruled by President Joko Widodo for 10 years, but is now barred from a third term constitutionally. Under his presidency, the Indonesian economy has seen fairly good GDP growth overall - about 5% per year, or an average of 4% per capita - and is broadly popular with the electorate. The biggest problems are the common ones, such as a lack of jobs and a high cost of living. Widodo's successors have naturally promised more jobs and an economic plan that clearly draws at least some inspiration from China's rise from the periphery to the heights of the world economy and manufacturing, but this seems pretty unlikely for Indonesia because, well, Indonesia is ruled by capitalist bourgeoisie parties and China is not. Indonesia's main gigs are palm oil, nickel ore, and oil, with internal manufacturing of these primary commodities only slowly growing and reliant on foreign labour.

Indonesia has a rather big employment problem. On the face of it, things don't seem bad, with an unemployment rate of only 5% - but this is only because it counts anybody who works even a couple hours per week. 60% of the workers in Indonesia are in the informal sector, with no real labour rights, sick pay, or guaranteed wages. And half of the ~8 million unemployed are young people. Indonesia is the sixth most unequal country on the planet, with at least 36% of the population in poverty, and the four richest men own as much as the bottom 100 million. This was a natural consequence of the policies of the dictator Suharto, who came to power in a coup overthrowing the communist nationalist leader Sukarno and killing one million communists, a period covered by Bevin's The Jakarta Method. At a fundamental level, not that much has changed since Suharto, and the country seems doomed to a path of slowing economic growth and massive amounts of environmental degradation under a plundering elite who will presumably fly off to New Zealand with the rest of them once the seas swallow the country, unless a communist movement can be rebuilt from ashes and can learn the lessons of 1965-66.

Though results have yet to be officially announced, it seems that 72-year-old Prabowo Subianto is overwhelmingly likely to have handily won the election. Once banned from the United States for human rights violations - a truly phenomenal feat - he has been the Minister of Defense since 2019, was an army lieutenant under Suharto and was his son-in-law. While this is obviously a particularly bad outcome, none of the other candidates seemed likely to fundamentally alter the trajectory of Indonesia, so the game was rigged from the start.


The Country of the Week is Indonesia! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.

The bulletins site is here!
The RSS feed is here.
Last week's thread is here.

Israel-Palestine Conflict

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful. Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

Gadaffi and Assad aren't weak or fools. Gadaffi was destroyed by western air power and being too trusting of the West

So literally Gaddafi was weak and foolish, you don't see Hamas, Ansarallah or Hezbollah being destroyed by air power or trusting the west, despite the fact Gaddafi had far more resources than all of them

The "type" that filled the streets in Libya was no progressive proletarian force.

But the "type" that filled the streets of Egypt, Bahrain, Morocco, Jordan, Tunisia were, which has been my whole point

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not in Egypt dude, are you not listening to me? In Cairo it was jihadist fascists terrorizing people like me. Get out of your fucking 2010 radlib narrative and listen to the communist who directly experienced this telling you the truth. I don't know how to be more clear, the people outside were waving guns around, making women put on burkas, taking all of our shit. LISTEN TO ME. THIS IS WHAT WORKING CLASS PEOPLE EXPERIENCED IN EGYPT. Chaos, rioting, then this. When was the exciting part? I was scared as shit the whole time.

Gadaffi made the same mistake that every world leader outside of the Kim family did, trusted the perfidious anglos more than they ought to have. Doesn't make him a fool or weak, he was one of the best leaders in Middle Eastern history. What happened in Libya was reactionary and it was done TO LIBYA. It was not organic. It was pushed by imperialist capital and I take great offense at any westerner scoffing and calling him weak and pathetic. Seriously fuck off with that shit.

Existing as a state with a somewhat planned economy is much different than existing as a war machine distributed cell network of militias like Hezbollah or Hamas. Gadaffi didn't have "more resources" he was spread more thin, and had to do things like protect dams, power stations, universities, libraries, hospitals, etc. to maintain legitimacy and had to maintain a standing army and bureaucracy. You're not comparing apples to apples here.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Sorry that happened to you in your neighborhood, but I literally know a score Egyptian communists who had the opposite experience particularly in Tahir square, I'm not gonna discount yours or their experiences

Like I already said, EVERYONE was involved that includes reactionaries but more importantly also the working class and its a disservice to discount the working class struggles that were raging in those early months even if opportunism abounded

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

By their fruits you shall know them. Non-proletarian reactionary class movements result in rotten fruits. We see a bunch of rotten fruit (The protests culminating in the dominance of the Muslim Brotherhood then Sisi in Egypt, the protests culminating in the overthrow of Gadaffi and destruction of the Libyan nation, the protests culminating in the attempted overthrow of Assad and destruction of the Syrian nation...) This had the exact same "revolutionary potential" as the Hong Kong protests or the Mahsa Amini protests recently in Iran, zlich. Nada. This wasn't limited to my "neighborhood" it was a group in the coalition that controlled the city and regional government eventually before Sisi came in, people I knew from all over the city experienced the same.

The first couple days/weeks there was chaos and just general lumpen rioting giving cover for islamists to coalesce and organize. This is the part you're glamorizing. Then the organized islamists systematically started taking control of territory (like our apartment complex). Stop me when this gets "progressive". If you're opining that there wasn't an organized left to take advantage of the crisis, I agree. When you don't have an organized left with popular tie-ins to the people it's too early to attempt any type of "revolution" or exploiting an imperialist caused crisis to push for demands. Thus, any effort in "toppling" the governments at that exact moment by leftists was extremely short-sighted and ended up serving reaction, an error that should be learned from and not repeated.

Any Egyptian communist could have told you we were weak and not ready whatsoever for any type of class war at that time, not ready to be a major force or faction.

This all started from me saying the self immolation is not a particularly useful tactic for us as communists, and the example of sparking off riots at a bad time in what ended up being a reactionary movement in the end doesn't really prove otherwise.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

Ok bro, next time we'll abolish the people and elect a new populace before we start the revolution

As Marx famously said after 1848, "Never attempt revolutionary change until liberals and reactionaries no longer exist"

One thing I really hate about leftists is how they turn defeat into an epistemology

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

yes "don't aid imperialist colour revolutions and read the room about how weak we are right now in this specific place" is exactly the same as "give up on communism and revolution". idealism of "revolutionary now and forever!". There are great perils at enacting revolution when you're not ready, ask Rosa

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