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[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

To be fair, John Cho played Sulu straight until it was revealed that he was gay. And even then, there wasn't much gayness to his acting. Unless you count bringing a sword to a skydiving phaser fight, but I'd consider that more bad ass than gay.

And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting.

Care to elaborate?

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

What is there to elaborate? Other than a brief embrace shown on screen, he didn't appear to play the role in any stereotypical gay manner. That's all...

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -1 points 1 year ago

Why would the character be a stereotype?

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I didn't say he was. That's the entire point. They briefly showed some gay characteristics on screen, but otherwise he just played the character plainly.

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, he played the character like a real person (who lives in space and brings a sword to a skydiving phaser fight) and not a caricature.

I'm assuming you don't believe all gay men are stereotypes from 1980s comedies?

So, unless you were expecting there to be hardcore man on man penetrative sex on screen, what would "gayness" to John Cho's acting mean?

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I'm not playing this game. You're obviously looking for a confrontation. You'll have to find someone else to play with.

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 1 year ago

I'm not looking for a confrontation, I just want to know what "gayness in acting" means, and why it is apparently a problem.

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I never said it was a problem. You're trying to make a problem where none exists. I'm not playing this game. Have a nice day.

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -4 points 1 year ago

You’re trying to make a problem where none exists.

Again, I'm only trying to figure out what you meant when you said:

And even then, there wasn’t much gayness to his acting.

Because it sounds pretty ignorant.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

He wasn't a Hollywood camp gay stereotype character.

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website -1 points 1 year ago

Why would anyone think he would be?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because usually when Hollywood includes a gay character they're doing it to villainize them, make fun of them, or show them off to cynically virtue-signal diversity. Having a character that's just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare.

Having a character that’s just a normal character who happens to be gay, without making a big deal about it or using it as a plot point, is rare.

I don't know if that's as true even in 2016 when the movie came out, as it once was.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Someone didn't read the Hays Code or anything. He didn't die (kill your gays trope), he's not portrayed as a "for ever" bachelor (but has a same sex partner, very ungay). Only thing is crossdressing. He wears the same standard uniform that women do in Starfleet.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Isn't there a scene where he means his husband?

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

Sure but apparently there wasn't much gayness to it

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I assume you mean "meet his husband", but yes. There is a scene Into Darkness with his husband and daughter. But other than that and maybe a few mentions that you'd miss if you weren't paying attention, they didn't really put the character's gayness on display.

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