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People aren't shoveling foods into their gullets anymore, they're dumping truckloads into it and proud of it.
Alternatively: Capitalism has robbed the working class of any time for exercise while simultaneously pushing food that is dirt cheap to make with artificial additives that lead to excess consumption.
But that doesn't fit the convenient narrative of "it's all society's fault," which pushes all blame and need for action off the observer.
Is there anything in the world this website won't blame on capitalism?
There are plenty of working class people that aren't fat and there are plenty of rich people, or retirees, or unemployed that are fat.
Being fat is about eating too much and not moving enough. People at some point need to take some responsibility for their actions.
It's pointless blaming the individual for a global crisis. Something systemic is to blame. And it really is a global crisis, it's just more severe in some places.
As a not fat person that doesn't have time to exercise, it's not hard to avoid one or two meals a day. Fat people eat too much, period. Don't blame capitalism.
Clearly because you don't struggle with this thing, the struggles of others are invalid.
Capitalism is significantly at fault because it pushes more and more food, makes cheap (read: affordable) food severely fattening, and creates industries that prey on people's insecurities and entices them into all kinds of disordered eating. To say nothing about the general decline of physical and mental health caused by unfettered capitalism that often manifests as disordered eating.
But yeah, eating too much is the only problem. Thanks I'm cured /s
As a non-fat person who doesn't exercise consistently, it's not that simple for the vast majority. There are a lot of factors including health/genetics and the stuff mentioned in the comment you responded to. I'm not skinny because I avoid meals, I'm skinny because I lucked out genetically and I really don't have to worry about what I eat in terms of gaining weight.
Also, avoiding meals is like the worst way to maintain your weight and you should stop implicitly recommending it. It's just going fuck up your metabolism, nutrition, and ability to maintain your weight. Quality matters substantially more than quantity, and quality is prohibitively expensive for many.
Intermittent fasting has proven benefits...
By making calorie restriction easier to manage.
Proper intermittent fasting is quite a bit more involved and planned out than "avoid meals", and doesn't seem to be what the other comment was referencing.
Is it tho
You do not need 3 meals a day, period. I'm not implicitly stating that, I'm explicitly stating it as a fact of human history. Having unfettered access to huge calorie bombs 24/7 is not normal. People who are obese should skip at least one meal a day and eat less food.
Quick guideline that'll help you be more empathetic to the rest of humanity: other people's experiences aren't like yours. Their bodies behave differently, they have different socioeconomic statuses, their minds struggle with things yours finds easy and vice versa. So "skip a meal" is trivial for you and impossible for another. That's why many different diets exist.
Stop painting humanity with one brush just because you can't see outside your own world view.
Also: A chunk of human history where we skipped meals regularly also involved getting eaten by predators. Just because it was true in the past does not make it true now. Having access to calorie bombs 24/7 is normal now. And society hasn't figured out how to deal with that. Some handle it fine, others handle it poorly.
I eat two meals a day. I drink mostly plain water, with some black coffee and unsweetened tea. I cut out soda over a decade ago and sweets are a rare luxury. I can't afford to eat massive amounts of food even if I want to. So why am I still fat?
Because you expend less calories than you consume.
Maybe you eat processed food? Lots of nasty stuff in there.
Good luck!
Being "processed" has nothing to do with whether or not something is healthy. It's the ingredients that matter.
Well good luck finding processed food without a lot of crap in it my friends.
Man shut the fuck up, shut up.
A can of mountain dew is:
Feast your eyes upon this and perhaps begin to question the dumb bullshit perspective that lives in your head.
Yes Americans, you do deserve to be able to enjoy a soda without fucking your calorie intake up. Did I mention the german one uses real sugar and tastes way better, which makes it harder to drink in excess?
Crazy how many calories are in just 25 mL of soda
They use different sweeteners which have different calorie densities.
Why the fuck do they drink sugary drinks if they're fat? Soda should be a rare treat, not a substitute for water.
Where did they assert that it was a substitute for water? I missed it. I also missed your justification for the same (approximately) beverage being twice the calories in America, thus contributing to that problem that you blame on individuals. Almost like you don't have one. Weird.
You’re not sensitive to subtlety.
Food deserts exist, man. I've been there. Living in a shithole area with no shops supplying fresh foods, and no convenient transport links to such shops
You're probably just gonna go to the overpriced shop and buy processed crap, y'know?
Which is fine, just buy less of it. Calories matter. I understand what poverty is, trust me, but using poorness as an excuse to blame capitalism for your bad choices is silly. There's plenty wrong with capitalism already without blaming it for people's choices.
If processed food is the only option, how exactly do you "just buy less of it"? Eat nothing? Be serious, dude.
I've had great success losing weight and saving money at Taco Bell.
Reading the calories and reading the body's signals are key. It took awhile for me to separate the craving for flavors from the pangs of genuine hunger.
Nutrition tho...
The focus on weight, specifically, is a mistake. Health is far more than just weight. Eating junk food is bad, full stop, and will cause issues for health no matter your portions. This is the problem.
Diabetes, risk of cancer, addiction, malnutrition, even mental health problems, all are risk factors on a diet of processed food, even so-called "healthy" diets.
Ah yes, thank you for your single data point. That'll be sure to topple this mountain of evidence otherwise.
People who say this almost always refuse to believe there can be any nuance to situations beyond their own limited experience.
Proud of consuming truckloads of food? I must have missed that memo. Alternative take - overstressed, overworked, and struggling to survive, seeking out any kind of dopamine or serotonin bandaid to make the struggle with bothering for one more day worth it. It's not something people typically WANT to do, but it can be an unhealthy coping mechanism when options are limited.