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[-] nekandro@lemmy.ml 27 points 8 months ago

Let's be clear: your claim is that no fighting occurred before Russia's invasion in 2022?

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

No? That is exactly why I didn't enter a date in my post...

Putte did attack Crimea in 2014, that is what I consider the start of the current conflict.

[-] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

Putte? Is this some language thing or an infantile baby name a la Putler?

The roots of the conflict lie in the illegal dissolution of the Soviet Union

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

Putte is a Swedish name that is commonly used to talk down to a person, calling them small, it is similar to Putin, and I like insulting dickheads with imperial dreams.

As for the "illegal" dissolution of the Soviet Union, that is a different discussion and happened 22 years before the invasion of Crimea, and can't be used as an excuse for the invasion in any rational argument based in reality.

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

I like insulting dickheads with imperial dreams.

Oh, the irony

[-] wildncrazyguy@kbin.social -3 points 8 months ago

Pop quiz, what is the largest country in the world by geographical size?

[-] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Imperialism is when you own land, I am very smart."

[-] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

So it's both, got it.

It's not an excuse, it's a cause. It causes regional instability that eventually results in a civil war in 2013 that escalates further in 2022

[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If Japan, South Korea or whoever suddenly had a Chinese backed coup and took control of US naval bases in their country, what do you think the US response would be?

Because that's exactly what happened in Ukraine. US backed coup, Russia moves in to Crimea to secure it's black sea naval base.

Is this the first time you are hearing this?

Here's another what if. What if Scotland voted for independence from the UK and became socialist or whatever. Do you think England wouldn't seize is nuclear submarine bases north of Glasgow?

How fucking baby brained are you?

[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

You mean the conflict that literally started with the people of Donetsk and Luhansk taking up arms against a government that was explicitly shutting down their language and implementing outright oppressive laws against their ethnicities?

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