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Why do people dislike contra so much outside of her being a lib?
a clue is revealed in the comments of this very post
Is there a video or tweet she did that sparked it?
She had some problematic elder queers on her videos. When asked to denounce problematic things they has said she did not. she said it is just elder queer culture to be problematic and doubbled down. Problematic but also maybe correct.
Idk she is kind of right. Older people are going to have disconnects with younger people. In 30 years we will be the problematic elders. Unless someone's actively malicious it probably isn't worth it to fight or debate or whatever. And alienating the elders isn't going to make them change their minds. We have to work with people who have some problematic opinions otherwise we can do nothing.
his stuff is actively malicious, though. he's working to restore stronger gatekeeping between trans people and medical care, using his platform to do that. giving him access to your platform without looking up who he is isn't a minor foux pas - it's dangerous. this kind of minimization is why people are upset with her. it's like inviting blaire white onto your show, not some doddering old man. these people actively work with terfs and far right groups as "the good trans".
I'm not that familiar with Buck, so I'll defer to you. If that's the case that sucks. But I can also understand her perspective. There needs to be a way to bridge the generational divides so that we're not splitting ourselves off every 20 years.
Like, older trans people probably had to fight extremely hard to get medical care, and they were only legitimized once they did receive it. In that situation, I can understand why they might cling to that for validation. I can understand why younger trans people who don't have the same upbringing might provoke a negative reaction. If you fought hard to get something and then people said it doesn't matter and it's wrong to say it matters, it's understandable to be put off by that.
Now I tend to agree with the younger people, because I'm younger. But there's got to be ways to reach a common ground. I could be very wrong, but I think there's a lot of people who hold transmedicalist views because that's what they know. It's one thing to know something logically and another thing to connect to it emotionally.
In 30 years we're all going to be the problematic boomers, and I don't want to be treated the way some of them are by the (understandably frustrated) younger generation. People get really vitriolic online, and while yeah, online isn't real, I'm sure it sucks. "The left was mean to me so I became a TERF" is a stupid excuse people make, but there probably are a lot of people who feel pushed out by the all-or-nothing approach some people take.
I could be way off, I don't know the details of any of this. It's general pontificating, maybe.
it's not a generational divide. there's plenty of young transmedicalists. it's a conservative position that posits that if we cut out all the "weird" trans people, we can gain the acceptance of the cissies because good "optics" or whatever (I've actually had this conversation in a phone call with a staunch transmedicalist that's very much a zoomer).
the reality is that queer assimilationists endanger all of us. their position forces them into alliance with far-right groups (see my earlier comments about TERFs and fascists).
this disagreement has nothing to do with a generational divide. I love elder trans people and learning about how they survived prior to the 2011 change to the laws that enabled informed consent. their experiences are vital. what I will not tolerate are people who deny the existence of my dearest NB friends, on a fool's errand to gain acceptance from a hostile cis society.