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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago
[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

They explain in the ruling why it doesn’t make sense in the context of when this law was made to have states decide.

Should a confederate state decide who is eligible to run? No, it should be the federal government

…or so they argue

[-] ech@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

So we can just ignore the Constitution when the laws are outdated and don't make sense anymore? Cool. Let's do gun control.

[-] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 2 points 2 years ago

The Constitution says "The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article." SCOTUS isn't ignoring the Constitution for once.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Noteably, SCOTUS doesn't legislate, nor are they "Congress". If there is a law saying as much (states can't control primary ballots), though, sure.

[-] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah, SCOTUS can't remove a candidate for insurrection. The only way is if Congress passes a law describing who is.

[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Of course not. Not when it suits them.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago

Where did I say that we can just ignore the constitution? Hell, I’ve been downvoted to hell on Reddit for suggesting that rights to firearms is restricted for militias…

[-] ech@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

My comment is on the opinion, not on you.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I couldn't find a single legitimate reason in that decision to arbitrarily remove the power of the states or the democratic voters to remove a candidate based on very clear strictures in the Constitution, except for the implication that the conservatives would try to use this measure by claiming every valid candidate had somehow committed insurrection.

But conservatives already basically tried to do that with Biden with their "documents" case for more than 2 years now and it didn't work, they couldn't make even that relatively insignificant charge stick.

In this case, we have a judgment of a candidate liabile of an insurrection that directly violates the presidential oath of office thay previously took.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Notice I said confederate not conservative

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

It is hereby noted that 17 hours ago hddsx said confederate not conservative.

Someone give you shit about it?

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago

You ignored the context of the civil war. It wasn’t about liberals or conservatives. It was about the federal government not allowing former confederate states to elect confederates into federal office. In other words, as determined by SCOTUS, this is the constitution explicitly taking power away from states and delegating it to the federal government. Thereby it is NOT a reserved right of the states and the people

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I haven't talked about the civil war at all, I think you're trying to respond to a different commenter.

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