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You're confusing a political justification for war against a terrorist organization with a racial justification for genocide. There are millions of arabs living in Israel, and they aren't being killed. Not everything is systemic racism.
And as far as your history goes you're missing a bunch of wars the surrounding Arab countries declared on Israel. This isn't a simple "white people bad" situation.
Non-Jewish Arabs in the basic laws of Israel do not have rights to self determination. Its a fucking apartheid state. Its like saying millions of native Africans lived in South Africa. These people only had a reason to attack because they live in an open air prison that mirrors a Warsaw ghetto with complete siege from their neighbor. A lot of the things they did was retaliation and a deep brewing anger. What the fuck were they supposed to do? March peacefully? Israel shot them by the thousands in 2018 when they tried to. where is your humanity?
And yet Israeli Muslims, and Christians too, can vote, they can become members of the Knesset, can become high level judges, can join the military.
Tell me about the rights of Jews in any of the surrounding Arab countries first. They don't have any either, where they weren't forcibly expelled.
Comparing pre-war Gaza to the Warsaw ghetto is so fucking outlandish that I know you've never actually read about it. You probably read that on Twitter and have been parroting it back. I won't argue with you on there being apartheid, but let's lay off the extreme hyperbole.
And as for what they were supposed to do? Maybe lay off the terrorism and take one of the several deals they get offered once a decade. They could've had statehood with a fucking elevated highway connecting Gaza to the West Bank, but they turned that down. Defending a 9/11 scale terrorist attack on the basis of "what else should they have done" is frankly unconscionable.
What a low bar to set for a supposedly first world nation.
The second world gets a pass on ethnic cleansing? What a weird policy.
You are saying because Arab countries are shit to Jews, it's okay for Israel to be shit to Arabs in their own country.
No, I'm saying this issue is complicated and if your primary sources of information are Twitter and tiktok then you should do some actual research before making blanket statements of good and evil.
I'm not sure what you are insinuating. I'm not reading twitter or TikTok. My primary source is you. I quoted your post. Let me rephrase for you:
Someone else said that Arabs don't have rights in Israel. You said that it's the same as Jews not having rights in surrounding Arab Nations, coupled with them actually being expelled from those countries. You are justifying Israel being shitty towards Arabs within Israel with the surrounding nations being shitty towards them.
This would be as if Hungary was shitty towards Romanians in Hungary (they are not) just because Romanians have been shitty towards Hungarian minority living in Romania after decades of propaganda. Or as if francophones were treated badly in Ontario (they are not) just because Québec treats Anglos like second class citizens.
Let me see what random goalpost moving shit you bring up in your next post.
Context clues mate. Consider the point the person I was replying to was trying to make. I never suggested anything was "okay" for anyone to do, just that the "pro October 7th" narrative they were trying to spin was insane and they had absolutely no idea what they were talking about about.
Fine. I'll concede that. But maybe add a /s for clarity.
"Tell me about the rights of Jews in any of the surrounding Arab countries first." Sorry, gotta expect more out of the most moral army in the world than an eye for an eye.
Who called the IDF "the most moral army in the world"? Certainly not me. However someone peddling a "white oppressor vs brown oppressed" ought to at least know the history of the region.