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submitted 8 months ago by JoMiran@lemmy.ml to c/antiwork@lemmy.ml

It's funny how the narrative changes when a group can actually fight back. Most of the Gen-Xers I know in tech aren't going back to the office, not because they are ultrawealthy but because they are getting old, are virtually irreplaceable, and are prioritizing life over work after having survived the pandemic.

Also, sure Millenials and Gen-Z are "choosing" to go back. They aren't compelled in any way. Right.

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[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 97 points 8 months ago

Is there anything that's more obviously a "divide and conquer" tactic than all this unhinged generational bullshit? I'm gen x, and I've got more in common with my poor millennial and gen z neighbors than I do with some rich fuck my own age.

And the "ultra wealthy" reference in this article is laughable. The ultra wealthy have always done whatever tf they want while the rest of us suffer.

This article is just "young people don't want to work anymore" in a fake nose and glasses.

[-] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 21 points 8 months ago

On the nose. Only fight is the class fight

[-] WHARRGARBL@beehaw.org 9 points 8 months ago

Is there anything that's more obviously a "divide and conquer" tactic than all this unhinged generational bullshit?

It’s insane but effective. A friend who is 25 years younger than me angrily called me a Boomer because my husband and I bought a house in 2020, which means we had advantages that he didn’t get.

It was our first house, in rough shape, and it was through a VA loan. Every repair was DIY. Meanwhile, the guy who called me a Boomer inherited his house and massive acreage. Also, unlike that guy, we’re pro-union, politically active environmentalists who vote for progressive candidates. Just an absolute wtf moment.

We own a house too, but it's actually cheaper to pay the mortgage here than to rent an apartment. Even so, it's similar to yours, and we're on two programs to help us afford it. It's our first home, and we bought it in 2019. Since then, the cost of housing has drastically increased here to the point that I don't think we could afford it now.

[-] WHARRGARBL@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago

Same with us - a mortgage was cheaper than renting what was available. If it wasn’t for a “zero down” VA loan and crazy low interest rates, we wouldn’t have been able to buy.

It’s horrible to see millions of younger adults hemorrhaging money on rent because they don’t have 20% to put on an overpriced house, but as you stated, that isn’t due to the year someone was born; it’s because the rich are kicking us down.

We had no money to put down whatsoever, which led me to believe we couldn't buy a home. We had to take out an additional loan for the down payment because we had no savings. I was actually surprised we got approved because my husband had just gotten his permanent residency, and I was effectively broke following addiction related career loss.

[-] WHARRGARBL@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago

Ah that extra loan hurts. Good thing you have your Super Special Boomer Advantage wealth socked away for vacations and retirement!

Yep, all those gold bars! But iirc the loan is part of a program for low income people and we haven't actually had to make a payment on it yet, just the mortgage itself.

It was hell applying though. I had to send receipts for every time I got reimbursed for travel from work and write detailed explanations. Don't ask me how it all worked because tbh I'm still confused lol

[-] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 8 points 8 months ago

Wholeheartedly agree. The most bizarre thing for me is my oldest siblings are 7yrs older and they are considered Boomers, and what a stark difference. Both had excellent education, careers, both union, and capitalism worked for them, they dodged all the market downturns, recessions & bubbles- and they're quite opinionated on them lazy kids, immigrants, etc.

[-] LittleBorat2@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The generational divide is real in a way because different generations had different possibilities financially.

A few years back you could get cheap loans now you cannot. If you finished university after 08 you could not get a job that paid the same as before or at all etc. These are ups and downs in the market of course but things put you on a trajectory.

I don't know if I will ever own anything and it does not look better for future generations.

Yeah, true. Thanks to investors and the fact that we treat housing like a commodity that can be bought and sold, it was inevitable.

The only reason I was able to buy a house was because I live in bumfuck, South Dakota, I have a husband who applied for the loans along with me, and we got on two programs. But that was in 2019, and it's gotten worse since then, even here.

But yeah, I do understand what you're saying. I just think the blanket statements about entire generations are wack. They called us Gen Xers "slackers" in the 90s and said we didn't want to leave our parents basements, etc. -- they say the same shit about every generation, and it's like we get amnesia about it every time. It's so ignorant when I hear people my age say the exact same things about Gen Z and millenials that they said about us.

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