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The Oceans We Knew Are Already Gone
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I've definitely crossed over into "there's nothing we can do about it so I'll just live my best life" territory.
Unfortunately, we were never going to stop burning fossil fuels as long as it remained economical.
There needed to be fundamental changes from the ground up, but anyone who fought back against (greed) was immediately cut out from the conversation by useful idiots.
This is the world we've built for ourselves. Now we have to live in it.
Doomerism is just reskinned denialism. Things can be done. Don't let people trick you into believing this.
It took two hundred years or so to cause this, It might take longer to fully fix but that's why we start right now.
The next best time was 29 years ago.
The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is today.
Today is always a good day to make the world a better place. Don't add to the inertia.
There are multiple points that we've determined that things would no longer be reversible.
We have likely crossed one of those points. We might be able to save it at this point, but we're probably not able to go back anymore. It's nice to hope that we could go back, but the reality is that it's almost certainly no longer possible.
Since our first steps 250,000 years ago, we have driven 70% of all species to extinction. We are equivalent to a super volcano or meteor. An extinction level event. Hopefully we have fucked the climate hard enough to permanently erase ourselves from the biosphere in a few hundred years. Hopefully in a few thousand or million, earth will find balance again.
Based on our sun’s life cycle, it’s not likely.
Even if all emissions stopped tomorrow for good, temperatures would continue to rise, our climate would continue to destabilize, and the mass extinction event currently underway would continue.
Like your comment says, we have likely fucked the climate enough that we’ll probably be gone within a couple hundred years.
The problem is, we’ve killed off so many species and damaged our biodiversity to such an extent, that by the time biological life could evolve to a similar level of biodiversity like we once enjoyed, our sun will already be expanding enough that earth has become uninhabitable.
We did it guys!
Oh well, hopefully we don't spread to other planets in the mean time.
We won't. Building self-sustaining colonies on non-habitable planets is so hard that it'd take us hundreds of years to pull it off, and we simply don't have the time.
That warms my cockles.
Lol. Wake me up when these problems get solved, then.
I can wait.
Same. I'm 40 years old, 100% believe that we'll see the fall of global civilization as we know it before I hit pension age.
Consequently, I don't worry about the future. Living day by day is headache enough.
I'm afraid, because I think we have let the idiots drive the bus off the cliff. People are starting to worry, some are jamming on the brakes, another group is still jamming on the gas and pulling the wheel to steer us right off the cliff, and we can't know if we've already jumped the guard rail or if there's still time.
Looking at AMOC, I'm beginning to think the guard rail went bye-bye around 2010-2015.
You should read The Ministry for the Future
Even if the developed world completely stops producing CO2 tomorrow, the developing world will go to war for the same right to burn fossil fuels that the developed countries used in order to establish the global order. It will be chaos, all the while super storms and once in a millenia climate events batter us.
Smoke em if you got em.