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Joe Biden suddenly leads Donald Trump in multiple polls
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i didn't say it's a good thing. i wish we had a society of independent, compassionate people and communities, but like i said, we get the government we deserve.
I don't think "deserve" actually has much to do with what people get. I think you get the government you get unless you're willing to organize with others and actually push for something better.
But you probably think talking trash about Biden on lemmy threads is somehow doing those things. It isn't.
>But you probably think
this is a baseless accusation.
I agree. I should've waited for demonstrable proof that you think.
this is an insult coupled with a bad faith interpretation
I actually thought you were making that joke and I was pointing it out. So were you serious then with that quoting and response? Cuz if so....oh buddy how could you not see that joke coming?
whoops
>I don’t think “deserve” actually has much to do with it. I think you get the government you get unless you’re willing to organize with others and actually push for something better.
... and if you're not willing to seize your fate, you deserve what you get.
Ugh I see why horseshoe theory sticks around
this is not a rebuttal, it's posturing.
but at least i'm not being accused of being a shill or a republican in disguise this time.
nah you're just telling people to get on their revolution grindset or something...actually I don't know what you're advocating for besides whining that Biden hasn't single-handedly solved systemic issues that have been worsening for decades and have more to do more with the entirety of the government than the office of the president.
if only he had been in the senate or the vice presidency, making things better instead of worse for the last 50 years
Sounds like Trump's line about how Hillary should've singlehandedly fixed the government.
I get that he ain't perfect. But the other guy is a wanton dictator so I'm fine with voting for him.
Biden wrote the patriot act and the crime bill. he has been expanding government power for decades.
Trump wants to be a dictator and to have complete immunity so he can do things like shoot protestors or kill people suspected of theft on sight.
So like...again I get that Biden ain't great, but I'd rather vote for the one that'll leave office versus the dude that pretty obviously wants to suspend the constitution. 🤷
I hate to be in the position of defending any politician, but we have evidence that trump will leave office: he's done it before. by contrast, we have never seen Biden give up the presidency.
LOL, dude, he started a fucking insurrection. By contrast, we have Joe Biden leaving the vice presidency without a peep when his term ended and going back into private life.
If you think Joe Biden is a wanton dictator and Trump is the democracy guy I genuinely don't know if you do think at all.
> If you think Joe Biden is a wanton dictator and Trump is the democracy guy I genuinely don’t know if you do think at all.
I think they're both authoritarian politicians.
Nah, they aren't.
yeah well that's just like your opinion man
>LOL
this smacks of an appeal to ridicule
I'm not some formal argumentation autobot and last I checked my lemmy threads aren't a part of Plato's Symposium...so if you want to hunt for logical fallacies in every LOL feel free to waste your time...you appear to have a lot of it available to waste.
this is pure appeal to ridicule. it doesn't address the truth of anything that I've said and doesn't support anything that you've said.
and your reply here is pure clueless weirdo that has no ability to comprehend what they read and has no sense of futility
given that you think that biden is trying to become a dictator and trump is a reliable steward of democracy and the constitution...I'd say that all tracks.
>and your reply here is pure clueless weirdo that has no ability to comprehend what they read and has no sense of futility
your insults don't bolster your credibility or undermine mine.
Your inability to properly quote things is demonstrative of how clueless you are.
your inability to understand software compatibility between mastodon and lemmy is a demonstration of something. your reaction to my use of common conventions only shows a savviness you don't possess.
>you think that biden is trying to become a dictator and trump is a reliable steward of democracy and the constitution
this is a strawman
Congrats, you're my first block!
oh, but you're not mine!
> By contrast, we have evidence of Joe Biden leaving the vice presidency
that's not evidence of about the presidency
lol
this is another appeal to ridicule
>he started a fucking insurrection
I don't think so. the breach of the capitol happened while he was still speaking a mile away. again, I hate being in the position of defending politicians but I am trying to deal with facts here which are in direct conflict with your accusations.
Dude, if you think that the breach of the capitol happened randomly despite the fact that he gathered the crowd, told them to fight like hell, tried to get his presidential motorcade down there, didn't call in anyone federally to deal with the threat, and told the crowd to march down to the capitol. I don't know what to tell you. You're not a serious person.
He said he loved the people who broke into the capitol. They were flying his flag. The lady who was shot and killed came straight from the speech to the capitol.
>Dude, if you think that the breach of the capitol happened randomly despite the fact that he gathered the crowd, told them to fight like hell, tried to get his presidential motorcade down there, didn’t call in anyone federally to deal with the threat, and told the crowd to march down to the capitol. I don’t know what to tell you. You’re not a serious person.
pure appeal to ridicule