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I am generally opposed to “woke” in the extreme sense, but I still enjoyed this movie. I actually found it to poke a lot of fun at wokeness, in a subtle way.
Protip: anytime you think using the word “woke” is appropriate for a statement take a second and describe exactly what you mean instead of using a stand-in that has no specific definition and can mean widely different things depending on the audience. If you can’t explain what you’re trying to say specifically your point isn’t worth sharing. It’s the same effect as when people use curse words as stand ins for actually communicating what they think or feel - it’s a barrier to communication and lazy.
As it stands now your comment makes no sense and doesn’t convey any of your actual thoughts on the movie. Wtf is “woke in the extreme sense” or how did the movie “poke fun” at “wokeness”.
Too many smooth brains use the word “woke” as a replacement for actually having to think about what they want to say. Don’t be a smooth brain.
Barbie smashes the Ken-Patriarchy by literally explaining directly to every other Barbie what that means for women. It was FAR from subtle. That whole monologue from America was pretty direct.
Also, it had nothing to do with "wokeness". None of the non-white Barbies or Kens even dealt with that. It was literally just sexism.
It worries me that you don't think sexism is a part of anti-"wokeness".
Woke is a fake word made up by conservatives to make you angry. It doesn't mean anything.
While the current definition certainly fits that description, it actually has a longer history.
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lol. "all men bad, powerful woman can do anything and doesn't need help" - story falls flat because the lead isn't vulnerable and too strong to ask for help. 🤮
did you even watch the movie?
I've seen what makes you cheer.
Is it graphic amoeba sex?
... I may be projecting a little...
That’s a no
Not sure if sarcasm...
I did get a feeling of an over-simplified explanation of misogynist attitudes, and how they arise... but I think that mostly comes from the fact that at its core the movie is a comedy. It doesn't necessarily need to explain every aspect of every concept in the movie, especially when they're not part of the core messaging. That being the nature of how women are treated in our world, and how they are used. Both in messaging and action.
The hand-waving of the Ken-on-Ken war, and how the women triumphed by the absence of men felt a bit empty... but it also exemplifies it's opposite (in the real world) where women have historically been kept out of high level decision making. It's also over-shadowed by Barbie's realization that she can't live in that simplified world anymore. Where problems can be solved by a musical number.