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I WFH permanantly , for a company named after a river. They can't do that to me , why? Because I live in Europe were we have unions and collective bargaining. That's the only difference , and it makes a big difference.
We really need a remote workers union in the US
Is there a Canadian (or ideally an international) org similar to this? Remote work is global. I've worked with two fully remote companies in the past three years and my colleages are literally everywhere. I've seen mass layoffs personally, followed by onboarding thousands of contractors in the Philippines and Southeast Asia. We all know remote workers in less developed regions are training the AI being deployed. and moderating our content. Etc etc.
Would love to see this labor movement go global. Remote work is connected and networked, inherently. I don't know if I'll see a global workers movement in my lifetime but I fucking hope I do (I'm pretty old).
The US is such a dystopian terrorist shithole, reading about it is like reading about a cartoon villain. Coup this guy, cause a civil war by installing that guy, destabilize entire continents for corporate profits and treat your own fucking citizens like actual bondslaves in a feudal state. Bloody hell, fucking axis of evil for over a hundred years.
We've been evil the whole time. This nation was built on genocide and slavery.
You say this but there's a reason our tech salaries are way way higher than most other countries.
An Amazon tech worker on average will make 250 to 450k total comp a year.
Anyone working for these big companies in the engineering fields is easily making 300k a year and up after rsu. Those salaries dont exist in Europe. Some companies offer close in the UK etc but... That's why people stay in the us.
Also if we don't like our salary we just go hop to another place for a raise.
The us sucks for people without an in demand skill like basic laborers or unskilled workers. It's amazing for folks in a market with demand.
(Source I hire and work in both regions. And have looked for ways to move to the eu region.)
I honestly enjoy your contribution. Perfectly showcases the disregard for people who are judged to not contribute enough to be deserving of a humane quality of living despite performing tasks that need to be done.
A very american look on people.
I mean we're talking about Amazon workers here. So, these are not the typical Americans and the typical american is not being forced back to office because they very likely never had the opportunity to work remote to begin with.
For those making these salaries, they can very much with the extra pay they receive compensate for many of the issues raised in a previous thread.
Yes, we're talking about Amazon workers here. People that are not typical Americans and therefore do not deserve a humane quality of life.
One can see why the US is such a terrorist shithole.
They already have a higher than normal quality of life based on their salaries and rsus.
They have quite the humane quality of life. They make more at entry level than the average family in the us wife and husband combined.
They generally start out of college making 150k at least between rsu and salary.
There is no such thing as an unskilled worker. All jobs require skill that you learn before or during the job. Most of these skills do not command high salaries but I prefer underpaid laborer or lower working class to unskilled.
This is completely false because people like to ignore the fact that there are worldwide recognized definitions for this.
Unskilled workers does not mean you don't learn a skill. It means you don't have specialized training required to do it.
We've had the concept of skilled laborers for ages. The words artisan or journeyman have represented it for ages.
The reason unskilled labor jobs make less is because it's easier to replace the person. Wages are entirely based on the value you provide vs the difficulty of finding someone who can do your work.
We see this in the exact market this thread was about. At the height of the pandemic when companies were hiring like crazy expecting massive growth they paid up to 500 to 600k in some cases with sign on bonuses etc. Now that the market is completely flooded with people looking for jobs and there's not enough hiring going on the salaries being given out are significantly less in many cases (often like 250k to 300k instead).