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UN Security Council resolution calls for Gaza ceasefire
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Biden is playing diplomatic chess. Netanyahu warned the US before the vote that Israel would not participate in a meeting if the US didn't use its veto. So, now the US didn't. BTW, Hamas launched rockets at Ashdod right before the Security Council voted confirming its status as an equal fighting party in the war before a ceasefire.
What you mean to tell me geopolitical diplomacy is more complicated and delicate than the people screaming "genocide Joe" think it is???? Shocking.
No. It means enough people screaming genocide Joe loudly enough had a small but tangible impact on American foreign policy.
You don't think that realizing he was pissing off his base, during an election year, has any impact on his choices?
Considering those people are not going to vote Trump over this, or probably any issue, I don't think he cares, no.
It's not about people changing their minds. Centrists don't really exist. It's about motivating people to actually fucking vote. When people vote, Dems win. When Dems are unpopular, people don't vote and Rs win because they vote no matter what.
But they may stay home, which is just as bad.
You say that but I think there's a sizable number that already are voting for Trump
Certainly not, but he definitely cares about the 100,000 people that voted uncommitted in Michigan and the littany of polls that show a majority of Democratic and young voters not supporting current US foreign policy.
The uncommitted movement got 100K votes Michigan, and within days the Biden administration started a complete 180 on Israel. It's more than a few Twitter users and he clearly cares very deeply.
So you're unironically arguing that geopolitical diplomacy IS actually simple? Really?
I recommend you read the second sentence that you declined to quote.
That sentence isn't relevant though is it?
Do you think geopolitics is that simple or nah?
Of course the sentence is relevant. I'm not sure why I should bother writing a reply to you when you apparently stop reading them after the first word. Have a good day.
JFC you aren't even denying it. you guys actually unironically believe it's that simple.
Selective reading makes you look ridiculous.
It's not selective reading. If I make a statement and you say "No" that mea s you're refuting that statement.
Then their second sentence had nothing to do with wether they think these politics are simple or not, hence why I didn't quit it.
The OP is just using bad faith arguments to distracts from that. Which is why they don't even attempt to deny it and just criticise the fact I didn't quote their entire comment instead of responding.
No, you didn't read it properly, and I'd say you're arguing in bad faith or you just cannot read properly as everyone else seems to have done just fine. Ignoring so much of their comment then their intention afterwards makes you look silly. You are wrong, your understanding is wrong.
Then why can't the OP nor you/ anyone else actually give an explanation, or even so much as give a response to an INCREDIBLY simple question. Of "do you think international diplomacy is that simple?"
Again. The conversation went
Me: diplomacy isn't that simple
SB: No. Shouting genocide Joe worked.
The first sentence is them denying my point that diplomacy isn't simple. The second sentence is tangential to that point. And does nothing to explain why they think diplomacy isn't actually simple. He'll I'm not even denying their se and point. Shouting genocide Joe did put pressure on Biden that did shape foreign policy in some small way. But again, its not relevant to the point I was making, so didn't quote it.
Which is why the other commenter is acting in bad faith when they completely ignore my point because I didn't quote their tangential point in my second comment.
I thought this would be fairly obvious to anyone with literacy skills but apparently I need to wrote whole paragraphs to explain what someone replying "no" means.
Yes, it's our literacy skills which are lacking. Gotcha.
Well I'm glad you were able to come to terms with that the very least.
Do you suppose that Bibi believes there are ramifications for going into Rafah now?
So you're saying that Biden had another motivation here: telling Netanyahu, "the US ain't nobody's bitch, and you don't tell me what to do."