ISIS-K Is Waging a New War in Afghanistan—This Time Against China (www.vice.com)

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[+] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world -11 points 7 months ago

They hate everyone dude. Have you not heard of them before? Why would they go after Russia? Ignoring historical grievances, their biggest operating grounds is in the African nations that France has been kicked out of and the formerly Wagner elements have taken the role of security guarantor. Why would they attack the primary force fighting them? Hmm. Why would they ignore Israel? Israel knows its targeted, and has a small border to patrol. It's hard to hit someone whose always watching.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 7 months ago

So they fight America's enemies and ignore America's allies.... And they have plausible deniability from the narratives that are produced by the West... And if you try to incorporate narratives from Russia or China that's just propaganda....

Honestly, it's a wonderful system of mind control the West has developed.

[-] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Didn't they attack in France/Germany/Spain some time ago? Or are they exempt from being the spooky West. The use of the term seems to vary wildly so it's tough to figure what it is used for, maybe the world minus Africa and Asia usually 🤔

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Spain? No. A Spanish politician said it was indirectly the responsibility of ISIL, but ISIL mouthpieces just said Spain deserved it.

France? Predominantly lone wolf attacks, not a lot of confirmation that they were ISIL, often they were called "suspected ISIL members".

Germany? I can't find anything about ISIL/ISIS attacks on Germany.

[-] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thanks for checking. Which countries did you find out then?

Got these examples pulled which does include France still. Don't know about the accuracy

Paris attacks (November 2015): Coordinated attacks across various locations in Paris, France, including the Bataclan theater, resulting in 130 deaths and hundreds injured.

Brussels bombings (March 2016): Bombings at Brussels Airport and a metro station in Brussels, Belgium, resulting in 32 deaths and over 300 injured.

Manchester Arena bombing (May 2017): A suicide bombing at a concert venue in Manchester, UK, resulting in 22 deaths, including children, and dozens injured.

London Bridge attack (June 2017): A vehicle and knife attack on London Bridge and Borough Market in London, UK, resulting in 8 deaths and dozens injured.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

China is an odd one to attack. There's no historical grievances and China is making a lot of positive inroads all across the Islamic World. Seems like they'd pick a different target.

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

China is more unusual, but the Islamic world is not a simple, singular thing. Religion can be hostile to near faiths. If catholics are burning protestants(or vice versa) I wouldn't thinking making friends with one, would endear you to the other. Even if you are friends with the Taliban, Isis doesn't really care. To them the Taliban aren't pure enough. No one but them are. Reaching out to the rest of the Islamic world may be seen as a negative to them.

If they are next to China, and china is not them, that may be enough for them to justify it to themselves. Religious extremists don't tend to make perfect sense to people who see the world as it is.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago

Weird how all the other extremists seem to have definite and concrete grievances whereas ISIS seems to just be randomly generated chaotic NPCs

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

All other extremists? The guy who shot up Christchurch? Was his grievance legitimate? The guys who burn synagogues? When the kkk bombed a church killing 3 children? I don't think they were from my view. They aren't chaotic, but their rational is not based on things outside of religion. I don't see that as npc things. They are human, and humans do not all see things the same. I'm not the one putting my views on them. They say they feel a way, and I believe them. For some reason you can't. It must be the cia, or America. I'll give you one thing. The circumstances that created them were certainly the fault of the US intentional or not.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago

Did I say anything about legitimacy? No! I said definite and concrete. Even if their beliefs are bullshit they still believe in something!

Their religion isn't "kill everyone" so who they target is selective. This honestly comes across as Islamophobia - 'they're just monsters, who knows what they motivated by!'

Why did they select China?

[-] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Maybe Uyghurs?

Also Islam isn't kill everyone but ISIS kinda is just look at their opponent list on Wikipedia

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

Maybe, but it strikes me as strange that they hate all other sects and national groups except the Uyghurs. Also, they'd be the only group that actually does care outside the West. Very strange.

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Not really maybe. In the article they say it, but neofacist cartoon character pic over here you are replying to probably didn't read it. They say it's for the Uyghurs and the support of the Taliban. They don't like the taliban because they are their local authority.

[-] OtakuAltair@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Why would they ignore Israel?

Because they literally receive aid from it lol. Fellow US proxies after all.

Israel’s Intelligence Chief, Herzi Halevy: “We will do everything to make sure ISIS does not lose in Syria.”

ISIS condemns Hamas

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Isis a US puppet? Fucking insane. The first two articles are from almost ten years ago. I'll shit in Israel. Weren't they funding Hamas back then too? I fully acknowledge that Israel wants this, but are you going to ask why won't isis attack Israel's puppet Palestinian? Is it because they are fellow Israeli puppet? The last link is reddit screenshots. I can see little else on the internet about it.

Edit: I did find an article which was under a pay wall where isis condemned Hamas eventually. They weren't condemning them for attacking Israel though. They were basically condemning hamas for not being isis.