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R(ul)evenge USA edition
(lemmy.blahaj.zone)
The discourse on American politics sometimes devolves to "Leftists who won't vote" & "MAGA Republicans" teaming up to "getting revenge on liberals".
I'm voting for a third party instead of the slightly less evil fascist. I recommend y'all do as well. Dr. West and Claudia La Cruz are good options.
If you're not in a swing state I recommend you do the same.
So you’re voting for Trump
Not sure how you got that out of my comment. I knew the literacy rates in the US were bad but jeeze.
Nope, it's actually a vote for a third party. Vote for Biden is a vote for Trump. See how dumb that sounds?
A third party has literally no chance of winning. By voting for a third party or abstaining from voting, you are taking a vote away from Biden and thereby aiding Trump.
If you’re too ignorant to understand that, then I can’t help you
The fact that you’d rather let Trump win to stick it to Biden than try to prevent literal fascists from taking over our nation says a lot about you as a person.
it's my vote to give and it's biden's vote to earn. it's not like he doesn't know what cornel west voters want. he just doesn't care to earn that vote.
So you’d rather let Trump win, got it.
no. you're putting words in my mouth.
You both have valid and correct feelings on the matter, and that is the tragedy.
Cornel West earned your vote, Biden didn't. However, if Cornel earns enough votes, both liberals and leftists are going to have to look at the prospect of having to take our antifascism off screen.
You have the luxary of voting third party, but do queer people? Do people fighting for women's healthcare? Even people fighting for Palestinian liberation have to ensure Biden wins.
I think that is something Cornel West and his followers should at least be talking amongst themselves about.
you don't know my identity.
no. we have to ensure the safety of the palestinian peopl and their liberation regardless of what happens november 2
When trump wins with your help, what are you going to be doing to help Palestinian people?
It will be too late, won't it?
same thing i do now. agitate, educate, organize.
What specifically does any of that mean?
i won't be helping trump win. i'll be voting against him.
The only way in the US system to throw a protest vote without it being a spoiler vote is to vote for the 3rd party which siphons votes from the candidate you want the least.
So since you prefer Biden over Trump, you should be voting for the libertarian candidate instead of West.
this is a lie. the votes don't belong to biden. they belong to me. if i give it to someone, it's not taking it from anyone else.
this makes no sense. i am going to vote for the candidate i want to win.
this is election misinformation
It’s really not
it is. a vote for any person must be counted for that person. they cannot count my vote for cornel west as a vote for biden.
Your vote for West means nothing when there is zero chance they’ll win. You are throwing away a vote that could have been used to combat Trump.
By voting for third party, you may as well not be voting at all. And in both cases, you are saying you don’t care who wins. Which means you don’t care if Trump wins. Which means you are complicit in Trump’s victory if it is to happen.
So I will blame all of you just as much as the Reps if that comes to pass, and the blood will be on your hands as well.
more election misinformation
no.. by voting I'm saying who I want to win.
if the situation is as dire as you say, and the Democrats put up Biden as a candidate knowing that I won't vote for him, and you don't stop the Democrats from putting up Biden, your complicit in Trump's victory.
you can see how that makes just as much sense, right, and how it's just as wrong?
The DNC chooses who they choose. Nobody is happy with it, but at the end of the day we have to prevent the literal nazis from taking power. You refusing to vote for the only candidate that stands any chance against Trump only helps Trump.
If he wins, all of you are responsible for the terror that ensues.
the people responsible for the victory of any candidate are the people who vote for that candidate. I'll be voting against trump
voting for West is voting against trump
so do I get to hold you accountable for what's happening right now in Palestine? did you vote for Biden in 2020, you genocide enabling piece of...
I voted for Biden, yes. It was the lesser of two evils, but that’s all we have. The situation is horrible, but all we can do in an election these days is pick what will cause the least harm. If Trump were in power, things would be exponentially worse, and you fucking know it
Stop playing stupid. And if you’re not playing stupid, then you ARE stupid.
Biden fucking sucks. But Trump is infinitely worse.
A third party WILL NOT WIN. Do NOT throw your vote away. If you don’t vote Biden, you are implicitly aiding Trump to power, and you are just as responsible as the Reps for the hell that follows
No, you are MORE responsible, because you could have helped to prevent it and chose not to. YOU are the reason everything will go to hell. Not the Biden voters, not the Trump voters, because we were going to vote this way regardless.
YOU are responsible, because you COULD HAVE helped but instead decided to throw away your vote
You are complicit in the fascist regime that follows, and you deserve whatever hell that comes to you.
I live in California, junior.