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How many Uyghurs are dead because of Chinese government action? Give me a number. Doesn't have to be concrete, just within an order of magnitude.
Genocide doesn't only mean eradicating a people by killing them. It also means eliminating a people by eradicating their culture and history. You certainly can't deny that the Chinese are guilty of that.
Have you ever been to Xinjiang? Claiming that Uyghur culture and history is being eradicated sounds like some sort of joke.
Did you watch Chunwan? Chunwan is the most watched televised program in the world and the pride and joy of CCTV. Every year, every single year there is a display of traditional Uyghur dance, dress, and music. This year, a part of it was filmed in Kashgar, Xinjiang.
Dilraba Dilmurat, of Uyghur descent, is recognized by many as the most popular celebrity in China and commonly performs in traditional dress with traditional music:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4LqhAkiVr8Y
https://www.tiktok.com/@hello_xinjiang/video/7334365885169241376
Do you consider it genocide when Western fashion swept through the world, unseating traditional forms of dress? Do you consider it genocide when communities in North America default to English, losing their mother tongues? Do you consider it genocide when French people learn English to participate in the British economy? When Quebec forces Canadians to learn French?
No, you don't. You regard culture as a static element rather than a dynamic, constantly evolving entity. You regard language in the same way. You consider indigenous people as though they are some hapless treehugger or casino operator rather than what they really are: people.
You're the type of people who will write on and on about the rights of First Nations people but, when the Squamish decide to build a 10000-unit apartment complex on their land, you'll be the first to protest it. Cultures evolve. People evolve.
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Fair, but can you provide evidence for supression of Uyghur culture? For displacement of Uyghur populations? The ones making the claim have to provide the evidence. That is how the burden of proof works. We do not have to prove that China isn't doing anything, the ones accusing China of genocide have to provide evidence. The accusing parties have failed to do so for years.
Eradicating their culture and history by killing them.
Can you name another genocide in history without mass killing? I can't! Don't you think that's odd?
Without the mass killing it becomes absurd to call it genocide, like you're making a technical point instead of an ethical one.
I can and do deny that. As I have expounded on over a dozen times, China is not committing genocide, cultural or otherwise, but I will copypasta some of it nonetheless.
The US’s “Uyghur genocide” disinformation campaign has already been debunked several times over.
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