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[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 26 points 7 months ago

Now that it has been discovered that stocks don't always go up, China now is going to bring its financial sector under full government control.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 14 points 7 months ago

The CPC is a Marxist polity, so it’s no surprise to them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_cycle

Periodic crises in capitalism formed the basis of the theory of Karl Marx

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 7 months ago

For a communist country, they've sure been doing a lot of state capitalism for the past generation.

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

More like market socialism, i.e. a market economy broadly directed by the state for the benefit of regular people, including when that goes against capitalists' interests.

Kinda similar to how the USSR functioned in its first 20 years under Lenin's NEP.

Also, you should look up what those terms mean first. China isn't "communist" (yet?); it's not a stateless, classless, moneyless society. It's socialist; the transitional stage between capitalism and communism where the state serves workers' interests instead of capitalists'.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

The Chinese state has been allowing some limited amount of capitalism, which it is slowly whittling away, and this article shows an example of that whittling. But that isn’t state capitalism.

State capitalism seems to have a variety of contradictory meanings. The Chinese state itself doesn’t run under the capitalist mode of production, because it has fiat monetary sovereignty. It has no need to extract surplus value from workers to make a profit, because it has the ability to create money out of thin air and to destroy money through taxation. This also means that it isn’t subject to the boom & bust business cycle, at least not directly: it’s affected by the (again limited and dwindling) indigenous private capitalist business cycle and by the business cycles of other capitalist countries.

[-] intelshill@lemmy.ca 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Overlegislation of the financial sector will lead to financial collapse. An upper crust of obscenely wealthy bankers is essential for the proper function of the financial system and thus the economy.

Edit: /s fuck y'all are ruthless

[-] xep@fedia.io 27 points 7 months ago

You forgot the /s, here, take this one.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 26 points 7 months ago

You gotta be careful people on your instance will say that kind of thing unironically

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago

Everyone's sarcasm detector is turned off today it seems

[-] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 7 months ago

There are American citizens that legitimately believe you unlock a multimillion dollar bank account if you write a note at 45° in red marker on your bills. We need the /s because someone is always stupid enough to actually believe everything it seems.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago
[-] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

Underlegislation leads to a bloated, extortionate upper crust that weilds disproportionate power over those who rely on said financial system. There is a balance, and the problem you outline is the lesser of the two extremes.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Don't forget the infinite growing debt glitch

[-] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 5 points 7 months ago

Oh thank China for this headline, finally, I have been waiting for it for years.

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