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Donald Trump shares image of Joe Biden bound and gagged
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Even given your exaggerations and lies, I’d ecstatically take four more years of this over four more hours of Trump.
Why do you shitlibs always make vague accusations instead of specifically enumerating the lies you perceive? You're all too cowardly to just say what you actually think because you know what you actually think is wet dogshit.
Huh? I didn’t make any accusations.
Coward
If you're not even capable of basic reading comprehension what are you even doing here
If you believe the things mentioned in the original comment have taken place just in the past three years or are the sole responsibility of Joe Biden, I would encourage you to... well, let's be honest, it's probably too late for you. I wish I could help you but I'm not an educator and don't have the time or inclination to re-educate the poorly educated.
But just to reiterate, strongly, I believe four more hours of Trump is literally worse than all the things mentioned that may or may not have to do with Joe Biden. You can disagree with that. I realize it's controversial.
I didn't think a Trump presidency was going to be that big of a deal at first but I was sorely wrong. It's by no means a stretch to imagine another Trump presidency, given the tone of this country and congress and judges, will be the undoing of the United States. Our democracy has failed. The oath our legislators have taken is worthless. They have all (all - dems included) put party over country.
And I will say it's not Trump whom I blame - it's the voters. What I am absolutely unable to comprehend is how anyone could possibly ever consider Trump for President of the United States, let alone vote for him. It's depressing that our culture has gotten to this point. Rather than educate and better ourselves, we choose stupidity. We choose freedom to be idiots ruled by fascism. We're regressing while other countries are evolving.
Biden might not fix what's broken but Trump very well make break everything it means to be American. So, for me, there's no choice.
Genuinely, nobody gives a shit about your personal opinion on voting, not only has nobody asked you about it, it's incredibly rote and predictable. You claimed there were lies and exaggerations - quit dodging and address your accusation with specifics.
Libs never engage with specifics. That's why their favorite dodge is to claim something is "complicated" and "needs nuance"
Nothing on this list is specific to Biden's presidency.
Every (modern) US government / congress has funded Israel, the military industrial complex, the prison industrial complex. These have always been gigantic concerns and now you're looking at this president and blaming him??
Current events aside, Trump was FAR more supportive of Israel than any other president this century, of not ever. I mean, you think shit's bad now? Imagine if Trump were president during this war.
Trump + Israel
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/100-times-president-trump-supported-israel/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50468025
Trump + Military Industrial complex
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/donald-trump-goes-all-in-for-the-military-industrial-complex/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewkorda/2020/09/10/trump-is-a-hypocrite-but-hes-right-about-the-military-industrial-complex/?sh=51b11e7d78da https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/09/trump-military-industrial-complex-eisenhower-pentagon-losers-suckers.html
Biden + Military Industrial complex
There's two wars going on right now so of course the current president is asking congress to appropriate more money towards those causes.
Trump + Prison industrial complex
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/trumps-first-year-has-been-private-prison-industrys-best
Biden + Prison industrial complex
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/biden-s-order-terminates-federal-private-prison-contracts-here-s-n1255776
"They" is used regarding the opioid criss and the 2008 financial crisis which obviously is not specific to Biden or his presidency.
Both Biden and Trump have taken positive steps towards solving the opioid crisis.
Biden + opioid crisis
https://www.whitehouse.gov/ondcp/briefing-room/2021/11/17/fact-sheet-actions-the-biden-harris-administration-has-taken-to-address-addiction-and-the-overdose-epidemic/
https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/05/19/biden-administration-announces-15-billion-funding-opportunity-state-opioid-response-grant-program.html
Trump + opioid crisis
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32113-9/fulltext https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-signs-sweeping-opioid-bill-vow-end-scourge-drug-addiction-n923976
It was during the Obama administration that the economy was essentially saved so I'm not sure what this has to do with Biden's presidency. The "middle class" has literally been dying since the early 1970s when productivity and wages started to diverge. The death of the middle class sits firmly on the shoulders of Republicans who oppose federal minimum wages and more regulations on Wall Street, corporations, and consumer protections. So, to blame Biden's presidency on the death of the middle class is just not based in reality at all.
Trump + Middle class
https://apnews.com/article/bbd344ade2b74e17a172ac5a371ba756 https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-covid-response-economy-jobs-taxes-inequality-1080345/
Biden + Middle Class
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/11/biden-economics-middle-class-workers-heather-cox-richardson https://www.whitehouse.gov/build-back-better/
The list then goes on to mention congressional election campaigns and buying stocks which quite obviously has nothing to do with Biden or any president ever. FWIW, here's a bipartisan bill banning stock trades
https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/npr/2023/07/20/1188869588/new-bill-would-fine-congress-members-for-trading-stocks-and-owning-blind-trusts/
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/senators-propose-banning-stock-trades-us-congress-president-2023-07-25/
So, yeah for me, I'm more concerned about a candidate running for president posting an image of a current president bound up. That tells me that this person is not fit to be the leader of the country where I reside. I have no problem with Joes and Janes doing it (I'm 100% in support of this) but I personally hold my presidential candidates to a higher moral value than the rest of the public. That also includes holding the current president and congressional leaders to account when they don't voice their condemnation of mass civilian casualties. However, given the two choices we've got, frustratingly, there's not much of a choice.
So, when pressed over and over again to simply identify the "lies", the best you come up with is that it's all true but it's also true about other presidents?
Does anyone in your life take you seriously?
Buddy, are you feeling okay? Do you know where you are and what day of the week it is? Blink twice if you need help.
You may not get it now, but hopefully you will someday
Just wanted to add, no you fucking don't, because you're willing to forgive Joe Biden for genocide. I wouldn't forgive the average person for that, but since you're fixated on Trump you're willing to vote for genocide.
You are well beyond delusional. It’s sad and frightening how many people have been lost to these cults of disinformation and warped realities.
Surely you realize you're a clown, right?
Okie doke. I’m a clown who doesn’t have his head buried in a narrative chosen by my echo chamber.
being smug about being wrong is such a uniquely liberal trait
LOL! Saying someone is wrong when you’ve already acknowledged they’re right. Come on kid.
You claimed another user was lying. You dodged and dodged and dodged and finally decided to explain that their "lies" were omitting that other Presidents do the same shit. This is, you'll find, not lying.
Dude. I don’t know what broke you but, on planet earth, claiming that a person did a thing when it was not only not them but someone else is called lying. I am going to inform you that because you reject truth and facts and reality, you are a member of a cult. Your brain has been manipulated for the gain of others. I want you to really think about this. Take the time to review this conversation and the facts presented by all parties. It’s not about me or my opinions; it’s about your ability to perceive reality. I sincerely hope you will take another look at this and take a breath. We’re losing too many people to propaganda and fear mongering.
You're really gonna be this stupid? If I say you posted on the internet, I'm a liar because so did millions of other people?
Holy shit man, log off and go look in a fucking mirror you joke.
If you say I posted something on tiktok when I have never had a tiktok account, yes, that would make you a liar. I’ve already offered the evidence to support my argument. You’ve chosen not to review this and continue to claim you’re right. We’re both looking at a clear blue sky and you’re saying it’s red. You’re a cultist. You are being manipulated for the gain of others.
'Cultist', nice perjorative you fucking weasel. Like y'all genocidal settlers don't call Trump's crazies the same thing. Nice equivalence.
This was you.
This is you lying in light of what you said in that first quote.
Own your skullduggerous, chronically-lying settler-assed horseshit with your WHOLE CHEST.
Why aren’t people understanding this? A more right leaning Biden is preferable over Trump. This is extremely easy.
Incorrect. Fundamentally incorrect. Fractally incorrect. Trump didn't let 61 Black protestors against the Cop City project that BIDEN drafted, funded, and adamantly stands by, get fucking federally RICO charged. If nothing's done about them, if they're not saved, they will ALL see prison chattel slavery internments of at least 15 years. Not a single Jan. 6th rioter got this treatment. I had more money in my pocket, and a better paying job under Trump. Meanwhile, under Biden, Indeed, Monster, even LinkedIn, all full of scams and fake jobs and if I'm ever unemployed for two years again despite sending out 20 applications a day AND having credentials and degrees out the nose, I'm gonna start chalking outlines of my own.
While we're on the subject of Genocide Joe and his manifold fuckups, Biden just sent/promised 18 billion USD worth of jets and ordnance to Israhell again this morning. Biden's not preferable. He was never preferable, in fact; now he's just wearing his armband JUST as flagrantly as Trump did, will, and probably will again because you people have no interest in actually performing the morals you claim, as a result, no interest in making Biden EARN IT.
There is no way for us to reconcile; no aisle to meet in the middle of. I will not support a genocidal segregationist; especially not a genocidal segregationist who is making NO tangible improvements to the material conditions that the non-elite of this society live under. Death to the settler. Death to his empire.
I won’t get into how the economy is actually the best it’s been in 40 years because you already know that and have rejected those facts.
The $18b in jets was just sent to congress for review. They still need to build the jets which will take 4-5 years.
Then where are the jobs, peckerwood? Why did it take me two and a half years to land a job with all my accreditation? Why is my partner STILL unemployed despite THEIR search? Why is a week's worth of groceries 300 dollars? Why am I spending nearly as much on gas? Why are houses so prohibitively expensive that I'll be renting a flat literally all my life? Why are used cars the cost of what new cars were ten years ago? You're so full of shit, when they flush you out for your coffin fitting, you'll fit in a goddamned matchbox.
Oh wow i knew we were dealing with a turbo
smuglord, but damn thats ideology so pure that Zizek would OD 
He's such a fantastic moron. Dollars to donuts this guy's only 'engagement' with this country's financial woes is through Fortune, Forbes, and FT.
Mf probably buying at Trader Joe's talm bout "this is the best economy in 40 years
"
I don’t know where you live or your financial issues or your expertise in things or how competitive your field is.
I know that the vast majority of grocery prices have come back to normal but there are still a handful of segments that are inflated due climate change and disease and anti competitive practices. These prices are likely not going to go down.
As I’m sure you’re aware, no president of the United States has ever had a substantial impact on gas prices. Biden did lower the prices during Covid by dipping into our reserves but that really didn’t amount to more than a half dollar and it was temporary. You can though look towards congressional legislation and their control over vehicle fuel economy. We know that Trump loosened those regulations and the Republican Party believes in the free market choice for consumers to choose what canes best fit their lifestyles.
Then this is not the 'best economy we've had in forty years' you absolute car exhaust addict. Thanks for proving my point for me. Your only stock in trade is lies, more lies, and pissing on my leg tryna tell me it's raining. Death to the settler; death to his empire. Even balkanization is better than this.
Then you don’t know how the economy is measured nor have you bothered to consider the realities of 2024 and the environmental impacts on a small fraction of consumer spending.
please get out your calipers and measure the economy for me oh learned master
"the economy" isn't a thing and you don't measure "the economy"purchasing power is way down and people are falling into poverty
Fuck off, genocider. You don't measure for the people; you're measuring for your masters. Your numbers, your 'reality', is not mine or anyone's that I live near. Your words, your measurements, and your claimed morals are just as hollow as the rest of the settler cohort's; you no longer deserve, and are no longer invited to hold dialogue with me.
shut the fuck up genocide lover
Yes the fuck you did
How are they lying?
Own your dogassery with your whole chest
Watch out, you're forgetting about the "crypto" part of being a cryptofascist
Its literally the same picture except one is tinted blue and the other is tinted red.
@TomboyShulk@hexbear.net tagline pls