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You should teach your son to mind his own business - his life will be easier going forward because of it.
Virtually all restaurants have drug users. You're not going to stop a systemic problem by trying to narc to the police or corporate. The owners of the restaurant, the people who actually have hiring abilities, desperately need warm bodies and they'll more or less take anyone. I would never let a child of mine work at a restaurant. Have them volunteer at an animal shelter or something.
Assuming the police do anything at all, you're looking at criminal charges for someone who will likely be replaced by someone else willing to do the same thing. Potentially even the young teen might get charges out of it.
Is that really helping anyone? If the teen is willing to take meth in the first place, that's the real issue that needs to be addressed. She will just find someone else to get it from- that shit is rampant. I understand that meth is a terrible thing (I've been through heroin addiction myself, been clean 6+ years by now). But sometimes we just have to accept we can't regulate everyone's life without risking potentially worse consequences by doing so.
If you really want to help then you, the adult, should talk to this young girl who is using meth. Either talk to her or talk to her parents. Tell her what she's doing is dangerous and she should get help.
Beyond that, what else can you do?
Yknow, I would almost agree with you if adults weren't giving children fucking meth
Also, think about why an adult is giving a child girl meth. It's not fucking good.
Maybe I should work spell it out for the thread OP since he seems like an idiot. Rape at a minimum, and very possible human trafficking.
I mean, can you really not see a difference between adults using drugs in the workplace and adults in a position of power giving children dangerous drugs?
The question is "what should you do about it" not "should this be happening"
Instead of trying to prevent a teen from acquiring drugs, you should raise a healthy teen that doesn't want to use drugs. If she is drug-seeking, you could arrest the adult in this scenario and her life would not fundamentally change. It's easier to get drugs as a teenager than it is to get alcohol.
So the crime of giving meth to a teenager. Ok, that definitely deserves a prison sentence. So let's call the police. But we have to look at the chances of
A) the police doing anything at all
B) the police doing a cursory investigation which reveals nothing and nothing comes from it
C) b) but with everyone at work knowing OP's son called the cops
D) police somehow find enough evidence or probable cause required to arrest him (unlikely)
E) d) but with everyone at work knowing OP's son called the cops
We could go all day, but having experience with calling the police... they won't do anything. Even if they do a small investigation the real risk is retaliation against the son.
That is much more likely outcome than the young teen improving her life and stopping the use of meth.
You see what I mean? I am not condoning the adult that is feeding drugs to a child. I'm just saying in a game theory sense the best move is not to play.
You could have not written these two comments and have been better off.
OP asked for advice and I gave it. Wrong or right it's my opinion and I have a feeling I have more experience with these things than most of the people here.
I wouldn't risk the physical safety or mental health of my son by causing a drama at a workplace that won't actually improve the lives of anyone involved. Girl will keep using meth and you'd have caused a giant headache and upended the son's life for nothing. I guess everybody loves a telenovella
If you son's manager was giving him meth, would you like someone to let the cops know?
No, by their own admission they want their kid to OD or get raped because someone doing anything about it is snitching and that's far worse then anything else that could happen.
Teenagers acquiring drugs from adults is not inherently predatory. If it wasn't the manager it could have been friends, family, neighbors, people at parties, sketchy street dealers, etc.
In none of these cases is anyone trying to take advantage of the person. Did we all forget our teenage years? I had adults buy me alcohol when I was 16 and 17. Meth is not alcohol but to a junkie it might as well be.
There is a such thing as context and if someone is being raped then I think the perpetrator should be in prison.
But in my opinion, OP calling the cops has a much higher probability to do harm than solve anything. So many risks
OP's son gets ostracized from whatever social group he has at his job, if not physically retaliated for calling the cops (you ever met a methhead? They are not calm rational people)
Girl gets interviewed and is either high or has drugs on her. Now she has a felony charge for possession
And if it at least had the chance to help the girl with her drug use then maybe it'd be worth it. But it won't. She will continue to use drugs because the root cause has nothing to do with the manager. Healthy and balanced people don't use meth. She has mental health problems. If we cared about her, that would be the one and only thing we would do.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. These two scenarios are more likely than the adult actually facing legal consequences for giving a child meth. If I could snap my fingers and put the guy in jail, I would. But we don't live in fairyland. The criminal justice system is fucked
This is blatantly untrue and you should think twice before giving any advice about drugs again.
You're either a methhead or a teenager, and I can't tell
I’m merely pointing out your ignorance.
You know who’s at risk of using or getting addicted to drugs?
Anybody.
There’s no need for personal attacks.
People get addicted who have mental health problems. Mental health problems can happen to anyone. That doesn't make it healthy. Diabetes can happen to anyone too.
So I guess I was right, which one are you?
Wow.
Instead of taking the time to read and maybe understand that you are wrong, you decide to double down on the accusations.
Try actually saying something sometime. Its not hard. Try to actually address something I said instead of acting as if you're offended
I did, and you ignored what I had to say and personally attacked me by calling me a methhead.
The whole time, you're too afraid to answer my question I asked "If you son’s manager was giving him meth, would you like someone to let the cops know?".
I wrote 5 paragraphs addressing your comment. You come back with a self righteous quip not saying anything of substance. Try again
If you are going to continue to ignore my question I won't continue this conversation.
Did you even read my comment? Why should I bother writing 500 words answering your question? I don't understand.
I told you. I don't care if someone calls the cops. I'd rather they call me. Go ahead and read it again. I said as much the first time and explained my reasoning.
To give them the benefit of the doubt, they might mean outwardly healthy and balanced.
Had a friend addicted for a while, and it didn't start showing for at least a couple years. It's really rare, but possible
Do you know how many professionals I know who have started with Adderall and switched to meth later?
Saying only unhealthy and mentally ill people start using drugs is dangerous advice to be giving out.
To give them the benefit of the doubt, they might mean outwardly healthy and balanced.
Had a friend addicted for a while, and it didn't start showing for at least a couple years. It's really rare, but possible.
Yeah far better to let some girl OD or get raped by the guy giving her the drugs then to do the right thing.
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