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A majority of conservatives in WWII Germany also claimed to not be aware that millions of innocent people were being exterminated. Conservatives do two things consistently... They harm others and they deny it.
In illustration of that point:
And the award for the most depressing and paralyzing thing I've read all year goes to....
Except, here in the US, the neo-nazis aren't even concerned with making their constituents' lives better. They make them as bad as they possibly can, and their cult still doesn't believe it
That's the beauty of sado-populism
Enact policy that hurts your constituents
Blame out-group du jour for the problem
Run on "stopping" said out-group
Rinse and repeat, change out-group as necessary.
Populism is always bad. Be it left or right, conservative or liberal, socialist or capitalist. It is always reactionary and never leads anywhere sane or sober.
Can you please define what you view as "populism"? For whatever reason every time someone says it they either mean a definition so vague and broad that it means almost any mass movement or definition different from any other I've heard.
I have spent the past few weeks constantly getting more and more confused.
Well that was a hard dose of reality for a Friday afternoon.
*All's quiet on the Western Front *
Is a very good book and movie that shows the nightmare unfolding and how the main characters react to WW1, and the horror at the end when they see it all new again for the leading up to WW2. Best movie besides Das Boot to humanize the enemy and get into their lives to see how the majority of them were tricked into war
I read All Quiet last year. It's definitely worth reading if you want to be reminded about just how terrible and ultimately pointless waging war is.
Which version of all quiet on Western front do you like?
The movie always stands out in my mind. Its beautifully shot and the respect that the director gave to the material is very iconic to me. I have only listened to an audio book of it, so I cant say that I really trudged through reading it. The message about trying to empathize with the enemy is something that I feel close to. My grandfathers mother remembered her grandfather Red Cloud in stories that she told her grandchildren and were told to me. I think about how close those historical people like my grandfather Red Cloud or Sitting Bull or Crazyhorse and how they are not that far away from me today. My mothers cousins remember their grandmother talking about being at Wounded Knee looking for survivors with her mother. The idea behind the pain and suffering that war brings to everyone is a good reminder that most people are caught in a situation and its always good to think about walking a mile in their shoes before you judge them and then take up arms to kill them.
There are multiple movies, which year?
the old one, the 1930 film
I havent seen any other. Was the modern remake any good?
I haven't seen to original 1930 film, but I thought the new one was good, and my impression is that it stayed true to the overarching message of the story in the book. However I've heard from others that it isn't as close to the book in its depiction as the first film.
The old one is truly beautiful in it's ironic ending. The main character goes home and sees the young being subjected to the propaganda and he is broken by it. And it's not even aware that WW2 is right around the corner, so it's point is so strong looking back in hindsight.
Who is the author of this? Great stuff.
Milton Mayer wrote it in 1955.
It's the best description I've read of how fascism takes hold of a country; essential reading for our times.
That was a terrible read, but thank you for posting it. It lines up with exactly what I'm seeing now: a sheer and utter lack of being informed. You see it in every poll of what people think, it's incredible.
This is surely before they started rounding off Jews right? I find it impossible to "not know" such a thing is happening without some cognitive dissonance going on
It is not. The baker he refers to was one of the Nazis who rounded them up; it was more or less an open secret. People just went along:
They were told the Jews were being relocated.
At 80%, a lot of people who aren't conservatives are ill-informed.
Of Women in Texas 70% are right wing
Of Women in Texas 82% are Christian
Let’s be real here, it’s mostly conservatives.
I clicked through and am seeing 38% of women are conservative and 32% are moderate. Why would moderates be considered "right wing"?
i suppose because the overton window in the US has shifted so far to the right that US moderates would be right wingers in most of the first world.
I mean, that's probably correct. I just am trying to figure out why it's a valid inference in this particular poll.
They're not ill-informed, they're wilfully ignorant.
Good point.