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It has been said a lot these last few months, but it is worth repeating untill Boeing stops dicking around...
"It is Boeing, I ain't going"
It's also important to try to avoid jumping to conclusions without the facts. If this is a new 737 and there's a manufacturing issue, then rake Boeing over the coals. They do have problems. But if this is an older plane that had either maintenance issues, then go after Southwest first unless it's a Boeing responsibility. And of course, things do happen beyond anyone's control too, and engines that fail for any reason but don't take out the rest of the aircraft is a bit of a win for design.
It's not new. Is also not a Max. Airframe is from 2015.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/386398
Eh, I am still not going if it is Boeing.
I will. If something bad happens that doesn't cause any injury or death, then I just get a fun experience
Neat. Now compare vs Airbus and see all those different compartments become meaningless.
and the engines aren't even really boeing responsibility, its the engine manufacturers.
"The buck stops anywhere but here."
Boeing : “iTs tHe fAuLt Of ThE PiLoTs!”
I agree with your rationality, but I will never pass up an opportunity to rake Boeing over the coals after the 737 max debacle.
The story doesn’t mention the age or variant of the plane, but there’s a good chance this is an issue with Southwest maintenance, not Boeing (or their subcontractors) construction.
Some quick googling got me the details.
It is a Boeing 737-8H4, delivered in 2015, so an alomst decade old plane, meaning it was probably an issue with maintenance this time.
Doesn't mean I would fly a Boeing plane untill the stop dicking around.
How would they stop dicking around with a plane sold to Southwest 9 years ago?
They wouldn’t but then people ragging on Boeing are also correct. So.
Shall we all wait for the next disaster? Keep scrolling to find out!
Hey what was that union that Reagan destroyed to avoid paying them? I forget.
You are aware of the other recent high profile accidents with Boeing planes and the issues with Boeing mgmt?
This incident may not be related, but based on the other issues I remain steady in my resolve that if it is Boeing I ain't going.
Untill the focus of Boeing shifts from it's share value and back to engineering, I will be very careful about getting on a Boeing flight.
I'm aware of a number of airlines experiencing random mechanical issues on Boeing aircraft they've owned for years. And 1 issue that was a new plane which is still under investigation and likely was Boeing's fault
I and my team of about 25 engineers travel for work constantly. Weird mechanical issues happen way more than the public realizes. Saying all of it has been Boeing's fault is factually incorrect.
You are absolutely right that claiming it is all Boeing's fault is incorrect, I never claimed that it was.
However, since the MD/Boeing merger, Boeing mgmt has acted reckless with safety.
They have pushed the margins of safety too far and we are starting to see the issues now.
I realize that you and your team may not have a lot of choice about what plane you can fly on, but I have, and I will pick flights based on the plane.
I get it. And I'm probably an oddball with being fascinated about flying even before I started traveling for work. Now it's something I do for fun to track planes I'll be on.
So to me the only thing that's changed recently is the news getting clicks running any story they can about Boeing. They could have been for years if they wanted to. But it's one of the current hot topics now.
And even now the news should be shitting on the airlines directly much moreso than Boeing. All issues I've heard of since the door blowout would have been a maintenance problem. Especially United. It seems like those fuckers in particular have cut corners. I avoid them in general when booking regardless of plane type.
What kind of random mechanical stuff like this happens to Airbus or other manufacturers?
Before the pandemic I remember there being software/electrical issues on the 320. More recently it's been engine issues on the 320neo.
Boeing killed John Barnett!
For some reason I read that as "Boeing killed Jon Benet" and was thinking well that's a conspiracy theory I hadn't heard before...
Thats funny. Also, wow. Haven’t heard that name in a while.
What other options are there for domestic US flights?
https://simpleflying.com/ten-busiest-domestic-us-airbus-a321neo-routes/
Plenty.
Then you guys also have sleeper trains in some regions, not at the same level as here in Europe, but they exist and are a decent alternative to flying on the routes.
They're not decent alternatives. They're much slower, more expensive, and go far fewer places. I would love to take a train instead of flying.
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