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Ohio to purchase mobile homes to train public school staff in firearms
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Let me preface this by saying that I wholly agree with you, and that more guns or training isn't going to solve this problem.
BUT
I'd also wager that any teacher is likely going to be more willing to protect their students than any cop/the police.
Teachers with guns + training is not the solution to the problem. That being said, cops don't give a shit about anyone but themselves, so replacing them with literally anyone else will likely result in massive performance improvements!
You have teachers in school with guns it's only gonna be a matter of time before you have new stats to play with.
Number of students killed or maimed by a teacher's gun during a fight or other altercation. Number of teachers and students killed by a student who gets a teacher's gun. Number of teachers who commit suicide using their service gun.
I'm not even using my hyperbole muscles, that's just what's gonna happen.
No you are bringing up a good point. This happened with the Sikhs. The boys carry a concealed dagger as part of their faith and issue brought up was even if you could trust that particular kid other kids know they have it and could take it from him. From what I understand most now wear a ceremonial blunt wood one.
They are glued or soldered into the sheath now.
I don't know if that is always the case, but it is certainly true that the kirpan is not required to be sharp (I was just reading about it the other day). They may also just be strapped down to the scabbard rather than glued. I've seen people do that at places where costumes involving swords are worn like ren fairs.
Consider also that not every teacher is a stable individual. Teachers are put in high-stress situations with a bunch of snotty little goblins who push every button. Teachers are human beings, and cover the entire spectrum of psychological stability. Police are ostensibly screened and trained in restraint.
Some teacher is going to get pushed too far and shoot a child.
Has anyone not had at least one teacher their life who mysteriously vanished during the school year and people talked about how they kit a kid?
I had a very eye opening expirience hanging out with education majors when i was in college. Teachers are just normal people who happen to work with kids. They are just as selfish, caring, unstable, and understanding as anyone else. Ask yourself which of your neighbors you would trust to stop a home invasion, and realize that is the same pool you are asking to stop school shootings.
I got one neighbor I would trust to stop a home invasion, he is an alcoholic welder and emits a low level tough guy field. We get along. Pretty sure he would throw himself in front of a bus to save my kids life but hasn't bothered to learn their names.