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You can push back against this strongly if you want, the neo nazi issue isn't just relying on them now because of the war began in 2022 nonsense, as if this was a recent change, on the contrary.
If you haven't already you can reinforce your position by using the well known western media reporting from the period.
These are some of the first page google results for me, perhaps it would be effective to do this in person with your friend, have them google something like this search term(remove the quotes) "Ukraine neo nazi before:2018-01-01" maybe mess around with the date filter in front of him, experiment with after:2022-01-01 for example and see the narrative change.
But here
2014 Guardian Azov fighters are Ukraine's greatest weapon and may be its greatest threat
The holocaust never happened and Hitler is a genious, but also the swastica? Don't worry its just an ancient sun symbol lol.
But notice how they try to spin the presence of Russian far right nazis fighting for Ukrainian nazis
Reading comperehension people, its not hard, saying that the Russian "propaganda" is false because the Ukrainian nazis are hand in hand with Russian nazis is not a point in your favor lol.
Human rights abuses in the east(Donbas) region? There is more too about how Azov were already acting as an special police force as well.
There are more articles too here is another one BBC 2014 Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
Even the BBC wasn't bothering with BS narrative about "ancient black sun". The fucking BBC mind you.
Both articles mention how Azov was already taking control of Ukrainian law enforcement too. This is not just about the army, but a systematic takeover of the entire government.
But wait there is more
I wont quote these others but you can read with if you haven't already and maybe show it to your friend in person.
Politico 2015 Ukraine’s far-right menace
WSP 2017 Ukraine turns a blind eye to ultrarightist militia