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[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 39 points 7 months ago

You know something is truly funny when it becomes funnier every time you read it.

morbid speculationApparently they use lethal injection, so I’m wondering if they manage to avoid botching it. In America it’s probably the worst way because it’s always a slapdash cocktail used incorrectly with horrific results.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

I really doubt it's any cleaner there than here. No doctor who doesn't suck ass at their job would ever agree to be involved in an execution

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

of a person, sure, but this is a billionaire

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It really is harder to fuck it up than to do properly. Just get their weight calculate a fatal dose of any of a coupple dozen common available medications and you are set. It is so easy that you get about one case of it a day nationally on average in hospitals where they are trying not to do it. It boggles my mind that we invaded some strange complicated way to duck it up completely when the city pound can do it without issue.

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago

Agreed, literally any fast acting barbiturate would do it with minimal complication.

Reiterating, it’s so fucking dumb America insists on torturing people with experimental amateur bullshit instead of just using literally anything else that quickly indices unconsciousness and death. Hell,dent would be more humane than the stuff we use that a survivor described “as my veins were on fire”

[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

I think the point is exactly that: to make the one being killed suffer... but not in a way watchers can feel bad.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 16 points 7 months ago

According to Wikipedia:

The drugs used to execute prisoners are produced domestically

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Vietnam

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

Thanks for the link!

I somewhat assumed (mock me if you want, it’s probably deserved) that it’s hard to make the barbiturate that’s used. Nope, just another case of America being so hollowed out and financialized it chooses not to mix some chemicals and make the one they need.

Some of these are head scratchers,but it is good that environmental crimes are on the list at least.

[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

Yep pentobarbital is dirt cheap

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

Dirt cheap and a nationwide shortage. Amazing system

[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

There are 97.5 grams of pentobarbital in this that they use on pets. That’s about $1.35/gram

Meanwhile they are charging the government $1500/gram for the same drug

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

Genius system we got

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Arizona is switching to Zyklon B so they got the shortage under control

[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Working as intended so they can charge the government 10000x it’s worth. Of course only the people who donate a chunk of that money to politicians campaigns will be selected to make and sell it 😎

[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

They’re also dirt cheap but the only companies authorized to make them charge the government out the wazoo

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 11 points 7 months ago

It's usually a random cocktail because the EU keeps banning the export of 'safe' chemicals to states that have the death penalty. I wonder if Vietnam is not on that export ban list.

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

I don’t get why they don’t just lie and say it’s for veterinary use tbh. Even vets are having a shortage as a result.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

We have this figured out already. Just like...a bunch of morphine. This is a complete fucking no brainer.

[-] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

Isn't an opioid overdose a horrific, terrifying, slow and painful way to die?

Killing someone isn't a medical procedure. It's the exact opposite. A more painless way to execute is by firing squad but that doesn't give the veneer of humanity, it's just blatantly killing someone.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What? No, you feel better than you've imagined feeling and nod out and then stop breathing. It's faster with more but I guarantee no one ODing on morphine is feeling remotely bad.

[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

Yeah that is classic hospice protocol

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

Oh, I should also point out there are different kinds of opiates and opioids and your mileage will vary between, but I went with specifically morphine for a reason. Heroin is just morphine with greater bioavailibilty so you can just make that up with quantity as hospitals are wont to do for just normal anesthesia reasons.

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