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[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago

Where did all the American and European neo-Nazi paramilitaries who volunteered for Ukraine go? Have they all been de-Nazified by Russian cruise missiles already?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Most of those went back home within days of reaching Ukraine. A lot spread stories of their experience to get others to not go too. They realised it was a complete and total shit show and turned around.

The others are de-nazified.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

I know about the Reddit Brigade, but I meant the actual neo-Nazis from the US and Europe who trained with the Azovs during the Ukrainian Civil War back in 2014-15. Did they volunteer and got de-nazified as well?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Most either didn't go or if they did they died at Azovstal.

The biggest problem in Europe are the italian fascists that were building connections at the start of the war. It's very likely that they received weapons and explosives.

The might be some up in Poland too but I have a harder time understanding the state of smuggling and the borders there, seems stronger.

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Also Azov has refused to fight at Avdiivka or Chasiv Yar, and is now openly defying the Ukraine command by keeping forces in Kiev

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 5 months ago

Yeah, a lot of them are dead now, and most of the rest ran back home when they realized that fighting an actual army isn't quite the same as hunting civilians for sport.

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

Others have mentioned that many took one look and realised they'd be cannon fodder or third line guards and not ubermemschen driving tanks across the steppe and went straight home.

But also, the attack on the foriegn brigade training camp seems to have been far more damaging than admitted. One anarchist who came back disillusioned talked about many thousands of casualties from a few weeks attacks during training, and the rest deserted back home.

The death rates are also misleading since maiming is much more common with modern medicine. There was a recent article about AFU veteran in Chasiv Yar and he's lost a leg and a third of his company have some kind of permanent injury. New recruits tend to desert.

Now Russia has some similar issues, but it also has a lot more give.

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