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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

I feel like I haven't seen anyone talking about this press release here and I'm curious about what people think.

  • "$15 billion top-up to the Apartment Construction Loan Program to build a minimum of 30,000 new apartments." Edit to add: "With this top-up, the program’s financing is on track to build over 131,000 new apartments within the next decade."
  • "new reforms to the Apartment Construction Loan Program to increase access to the program and make it easier for builders to build"
  • "Launching Canada Builds – partnering with provinces and territories to build more rental housing across the country"
  • "Yesterday, we announced a new $6 billion Canada Housing Infrastructure Fund and a $400 million top-up to the Housing Accelerator Fund to ensure communities have the infrastructure they need to grow and build more homes"

Is this more lip service or are these genuinely working in the right direction to increase housing?

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[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Hey, I appreciate your response. It looks like we agree on a lot of points about the causes of the housing crisis (neoliberalism, Canadian oligarchies, neoliberalism, and also neoliberalism), and the implications for people looking to get into the market, pay their rent/mortgage, and eventually retire.

some of it is organic, but a lot of the rampant hate being directed exclusively in one direction is not. It is being pushed by agendas and individuals who will directly benefit from a Conservative leadership

I'm conflicted. I hear a lot of media chatter about foreign bots and I see reposts of memes from Canada Proud and co. But I don't think that's where the anger comes from. I live in a small town, and the number of people who mention housing costs in casual conversation is surprising. They're talking about how they can't afford to move, or how much their rent is increasing this year, or how they're not taking a big trip this year. They aren't talking about politicians. They don't mention Trudeau (even though this is safe Conservative riding) or the talking points I see online.

The right-wing influence peddlers undoubtedly have an effect online. They're able to tap into existing anger and some users to post memes and repeat talking points, which shifts conversation to some degree. But they aren't creating the anger. Most people reading Lemmy have probably seen the 1.3 million house number from the PBO or the 3.5 million number from CMHC, so when they see announcements that promise tens of thousands of homes over five or ten years, it seems insufficient. Posting a meme, or repeating a talking point when they see that seems is not inappropriate.

I don’t believe you’re one of those people I was refering to since you generally are posting with thought in your posts.

Thanks. And thanks for the thoughtful response.

I don’t know if something is wrong with your account as I only saw this in my inbox. Not a single other one of your posts appear anywhere when I browse Lemmy, and I don’t have you blocked so I don’t know what’s going on.

Yeah. Sometimes I don't know why I bother with the Fediverse. Like, I like the idea, but there's a fair amount of jank. I think lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works are still federated or whatever. Maybe I've gotten myself banned from some communities? I dunno. And I have no idea how/where to check.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

It's hardly surprising that a problem that was 40 years in the making can't be fixed in one election cycle.

[-] Sprawlie@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah. Sometimes I don’t know why I bother with the Fediverse. Like, I like the idea, but there’s a fair amount of jank. I think lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works are still federated or whatever. Maybe I’ve gotten myself banned from some communities? I dunno. And I have no idea how/where to check.

Over the last few days the more glaring issues with the federation way are emerging. I sadly don't think Lemmy is going to survive once some of the federated servers either get big enough and they have to start dealing truly with the same bullshit posters /bots that reddit does.

Look at the .ML instance as an example. It is growing to be one of the largest ones, yet The typical post on that is borderline violent. I have read numerous death threats. Rampant Racism and anti-semitism. and the owner/admin of it seemingly agrees with that. I got a temp ban for "reporting too much" for directly reporting around 6 anti semetic and anti - islamic posts. And rading his post history, he's a staunch Commie who thinks we should kill all capitalists.

How lemmy.ml continues to be allowed to be federated despite this direction will be the evidenec that federation won't work if the overall Lemmy experience does not adhere to at least the same standards. Having standards differ wildly like that will just alienate poeple. I Know I don't know if I'm going to stay long here because of the sheer hate I see supported on Lemmy because certain federated server admins decided that sort of hate is ok on their server

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

I have read numerous death threats. Rampant Racism and anti-semitism. and the owner/admin of it seemingly agrees with that.

I'm lucky, I've missed that somehow. Maybe my instance is defederated from lemmy.ml. Or maybe I blocked the instance in my client.

Maybe try a different instance? sh.itjust.works has been pretty good for me: decent uptime, mods seem fine, nothing gross/distasteful makes it onto my screen.

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