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this post was submitted on 12 Apr 2024
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Civilian deaths in Ukraine: 10,810 in two years ^[https://www.yahoo.com/news/over-10-000-civilians-killed-075400186.html]
Civilian deaths in Palestine: 33,175 in six months ^[https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-04-07-24/h_4ac82afa5642112a4a21df3eb486e33c]
Wow I wonder which of these is a genocide
The US military’s own civilian death count estimates (leaked by Wikileaks) show 100,000 civilians killed by direct violence by the US as of 2009 - although the peer reviewed study by The Lancet puts the figure at 600,000 to 800,000 direct violent deaths of civilians and at least 2 million and the lower studies still say at least 400,000.
The US killed more civilians in a month than have died in Ukraine in total, and the Ukrainian total also vaguely pretends those deaths were all at the hands of Russia but Ukraine has been shelling Donetsk and DPR cities the whole time, not to mention most of the time you saw a smoking apartment building on the news it was because Ukrainian AA missiles misfired.
At the start of the war Ukraine was holding civilians hostage as shields and refusing to allow them to evacuate