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US officials said that China provided more than 70% of the $900m (£723m) in machine tools – probably used to build ballistic missiles – imported in the last quarter of 2023 by Russia.

They also said that 90% of Russia’s microelectronics imports – used to produce missiles, tanks and aircraft – came from China last year.

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[-] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Accountability. If there was a name they would have to provide some kind of evidence or justification for the claims. As it is we just have to take their word for it.

[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago

I want to argue, but you’re absolutely right - I cannot for the life of me find any source information whatsoever besides that it was from 2 senior Biden administration people.

I’m wondering if this something they do to prevent foreign adversaries from identifying which information complex (cia, fbi, nsa, dhs, etc) actually figured out what was going on.

It would make sense in this specific case but they kinda lose credibility when hiding behind anonymity and it certainly raises red flags with the people regarding propaganda.

Won’t let another Afghanistan happen with my vote

[-] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

Read your news carefully. Western news media almost never give a name unless there is real evidence. You will frequently see things like "according to experts familiar with the matter", or "speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorised to talk to the press", or any number of other permutations.

And yet, when quoting Putin, Xi or any of their other favourite pantomime villains they always qualify their statements with "without citing any evidence."

[-] SMillerNL@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

They could very well get evidence without wanting to name someone. Protecting sources is pretty normal in journalism

[-] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

That does not and should not extend to US government officials or their press releases. Ask a credible journalist. This story was sent to Agence France Press who redistribute it, without without verifying anything, to hundreds of news outlets worldwide in the knowledge that many will just print it as is because they don't have the resources to follow any of it up.

You should probably educate yourself on how the news industry works, although you wont like it.

[-] whenigrowup356@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Sure, any sources should be checked. That said, do you have any particular reason to doubt the figure?

The two countries have declared a "no limits" partnership, have they not?

The Intel seems to be about CNC machine tool exports from China to Russia, and FT has also reported (here) on the increase, citing Russian customs data.

Are there any Russian or Chinese sources you know of that are reporting contradictory information?

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Were you born yesterday? Protecting sources in journalism has been standard practice since the dawn of time. Media literacy is in the gutter here smh

[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub -2 points 7 months ago

If you truly think this is a problem that could only ever be on the “western side”, you’re a fool and a hipocrit.

I get you might not like western practices, but if you truly care about truth honesty and respect for your fellow people, and aren’t a racist POS, you’d choose your words more carefully next time friend. You ruined the entire conversation we just had because you had to make a shallow point like this.

Just a thought.

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