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[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 7 months ago

Just sanctioning Russia created so much instability. I feel if they try this with China they are instantly gonna become third world countries.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

For sure, Russia is an important commodity exporter globally, but China is absolutely essential in terms of manufacturing. There's no replacement for China, and I completely agree that economic situation would deteriorate very rapidly if China was cut off. That said, US might see this as a positive because it will create cheap labor markets it can exploit.

[-] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 6 months ago

Much as how WW2 offered a reset on capitalism by destroying a lot of the means of production and allowed a struggling capitalism a shot in the arm, doing this, creating all these cheap labor markets (and it's working to do a bit of that at home with inflation and all that's going on, high rents, etc) will likewise give US capitalism a shot in the arm, more time to defeat China. It's a cold-blooded but rational plan assuming it is a plan and it could be.

And as long as the proletariat of the western world is complacent, blames China and Russia and maybe an inept long-departed figure-head of government and buys the anti-communist propaganda (or hijacks communist aesthetics with reactionary social pushes to drive people away) I fear we are still many decades away potentially from seeing socialist movements genuine socialist movements in the west gain any power if this type of thing works.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 months ago

I think that's basically the logic, how viable it's going to be given utter lack of social cohesion in the west is to be seen. I think the most likely scenario is that the west is going to be at each others throats within a decade.

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