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Anti-trans Missouri A.G. can now access trans people’s medical records
(newrepublic.com)
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There absolutely is. Trans care is whatever care Trans people get. Just like women's care is the care women get, children's care is the care children get, along with elder care and care for the disabled. Unqualified "care" is the province only of white, gender conforming, AMAB men, preferably WASPs. You don't hear as much about it now, but "black healthcare" is what gave us the Tuskegee syphilis human experiment.
Anything these bigots and fascists can use to distinguish the kind of care the "other" receives from normal care is a way to demonize the other and justify making their costs higher and their services worse, less, or outright illegal.
women and children or elder care is only differentiated because different biological things happen. the same with female or male biology that's why you would focuses on that. trans is only a very small subset of that. you only say transgender care because you don't want to directly say what it actually is you are actually asking for. transgender care is used because it sounds better then asking for hormones and puberty blockers and after that surgery's. its to marked something with a more familiar term to make it more acceptable. some people want hormones and puberty blockers to be the only way in reducing dysphoria and a big part of that wants surgery to be the only way. calling everybody bigots and fascists because you disagree with someone only shows how weak your arguments are. it does not help your credibility and it only helps to reduce the impact and meaning of the words.
Do people think women's care only means hysterectomy and radical mastectomy? Does elder care only mean euthanasia? The problem isn't that the term obfuscates particular procedures, because the particular procedures any patient receives are none of your fucking business. It's that it's used to hide assumptions that support demonizing the target group.
There are absolutely biological differences that influence what the standard of care ought to be, but that distinction only matters in policy because bigots and fascists need lines of division so they can restrict target classes from accessing healthcare.
If you want to have a conversation about puberty blockers, you can have that conversation. I think it's a complicated subject. This issue is a problem because you want "trans care" to mean the least credible, most socially objectionable course of treatment for a target class of "less than" citizens you can imagine, whereas others just want healthcare. And whatever care that is is up to the patient and their doctor.
because women's care and elder care don't only mean hysterectomy and radical mastectomy and euthanasia that's the whole point of doing it in that way because you cant really know what is really meant because it involves a lot more. its just more common in does groups of care. trans care means exactly what i said it means and its used to make it sound better you can only dream of wanting to use it in any other way like women's care and elder care.
What do you propose to reduce dysphoria other than gender affirming care? Y'all talk a big game but you have no alternatives that aren't abjectly cruel whilst being entirely ineffective.
gender affirming care is the exact same thing. i do no maybe mental problems should be treated firs and maybe go too a mental health professional instead of doing body altering drugs and surgeries. that would be my radical alternative you know more radical than taking body altering drugs and surgeries. maybe im just extremist.
Trans people... Get mental healthcare? Not sure what you're suggesting here. Are you aware that hormones and surgery, for those who desire them, are the most effective treatment available for trans people? Are you aware that basically no other surgery has a regret rate as low as trans surgeries do?
for those who desire them oh really what mental healthcare did they get? i don't think that's how it works for hormones and surgery's. i get it because i want to get it like your taking a fucking mint no serious Medical procedure works like that. i think you live in a fantasy world and you seem very invested. because no rationale person would seriously say this.
You really are talking out of your ass. Have you ever actually looked into how trans care works? Because mental healthcare is very much a part of it.
Maybe we live in fantasy world, but you definitely live in propaganda world.
fantasy world is still worse its not real. propaganda world at least you can try and change.i guess you have your own better sounding definition of trans care good for you but its just yours and its a small one because you have not said anything about the rest.
So, you don't know what you're talking about, obviously, as one of the requirements for bottom surgery is three letters of recommendation, one of which has to be from a therapist working with the prospective surgery recipient for at least a year. Kind of seems like you are very invested in a fantasy world, rather than learning the shape of reality.
you did say hormones and surgery, for those who desire them. you did not say anything about requirements .you where only talking about how awesome these treatments are was that shaping your own reality. requirements seems like something you should start with for someone who knows so much.
Point is, you should maybe do some research into what you're talking about before having an opinion. I happen to know what the process involves for someone going through it, and what the outcomes are like for various alternatives. Transitioning is what helps trans people who want to transition. Nothing else is as effective, and we have decades of data from clinical practice to support that.
ah yes educate yourself because your opinion is not valid. even here you are just talking about your own feelings. yes very cherry Pict studies that obviously support everything you say and if it does not there done by bigots and they should not be used. Transitioning is what helps trans people who want to transition i really love this circular argument its Presuppositional trans argument
Trans people who don't want to transition... Shouldn't be forced to transition? I don't understand your stance here.
And yes, filling a survey from a site for parents denying that their kid could possibly be trans, is a lousy place to get a fair dataset on trans people. Is there a reason you think that the majority of studies are biased, and the majority of practitioners in the field are pro affirming care?
Your beliefs fail to comport with reality. If I had beliefs like that, I would want to update them to better do so. Can you provide evidence that my belief that "medical care for trans people who want it is the best route" is incorrect?
Transitioning is what helps trans people who want to transition. just assuming that what you want to be true is just the only solution before even considering other options. my beliefs fail to comport with your beliefs. ah yes i need too find papers for serious internet business so you can just deflect everything. i love your serious debate tactics. "medical care for trans people who want it is the best route" you mean people who want hormones and surgeries.
This isn't an assumption, this is what the literature shows. If you'd like to ask about a specific claim, I'm prepared to provide specific evidence.
You're being evasive, specifically what treatments are you talking about? Everything from conversion therapy to electric-shock treatments have been attempted in the past without success.
no i just don't like to repeat myself its in my other posts.
What mental healthcare specifically are you talking about? Everyone would ideally be getting mental healthcare. So what additional steps are you suggesting be taken with regards to trans people? Are you arguing against informed consent or for a different standard of care entirely? I cannot tell from your other posts what you actually support, only what you're opposed to.