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US House approves FISA renewal – warrantless surveillance and all
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That's why I say that 2 parties is almost the same as 1 party
FPTP voting is keeping us from having a functioning and free country.
Yes, but there are countries with ranked choice voting that still ultimately come down to "red neoliberals vs blue neoliberals". They've built a machine that is extremely difficult to stop.
You need more candidates and a simpler applying process first. 2 tour election won't help in the current situation
Simply having something sane like score voting would make third party candidates viable and would increase the people attempting to run even with a difficult application process. We can then work on making it easier to apply.
It's literally just replace FPTP with score (or even ranked choice) and things would improve from there even without other changes to the election system.
Tbh I don't understand any difference between FPTP and other kinds of voting. As I understood, the only difference is the absence of 2nd tour in the first one (you get the most votes - you win)
https://www.equal.vote/problem
Power Duopoly: not quite as bad as a Power Monopoly - a.k.a. Dictatorship - but not really the same as Democracy.
Yes that's what I meant
In this topic. Can't extend this vote to cover others.
~~70% of Republicans (some small government, eh?) and 40% of Democrats voted yes.~~
All my math is wrong. See below for correct numbers.
Sixty nine, dude!
What math are you doing? I got 69% aye from the Democrats and 58% aye from the Republicans.
Republican: (126 ÷ (126 + 88 + 4)) * 100 = 57.80% Democratic: (147 ÷ (147 + 59 + 7)) * 100 = 69.01%
88 is 69.84% of 126... Oh, I see my mistake. Haha. Thanks for the correction. I calculated what percentage of yes the noes are, instead of what percentage of total voters voted yes. I'm hella dumb! In my defense, I was still drinking my morning coffee, and nobody should ever listen to anything I have to say that requires rational thought before I have two cups of coffee.
And yet people say conservatives won't vote to stop surveillance. I think we need to stop thinking about political lines. The drama with Trump definitely opened some eyes.
But they didn't vote to stop surveillance? It was not stopped. They are the majority and they did not stop it.
True but its better than the complete bipartisan support it used to have
These are like Lauren Bobo, Gaetz, and Green. This is unfortunately not a principled stance but instead because their cult leader told them to "KILL FISA!" IDK if better is the word. It is certainly a broken clock that was correct about that particular time of day.
You aren't supposed to recognize when some politicians do something right. Just scream about the orange man constantly.
I think you mean orange devil