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[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 212 points 7 months ago

Imagine a species surviving world war 2 and the Holocaust then still being pro-nazi. So fucking stupid.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 83 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A bad economy and uncertain future make people very afraid. It’s tempting to stick your head in the sand, blame all your problems on a specific demographic, then trust dear leader will punish the people that made you scared.

It’s completely divorced from reality, but reality sucks right now. People are scared. They’re taking the blue pill to feel better and pretend the horror all around them isn’t happening. They won’t max out their credit cards and become homeless. Dear Leader will fix things before that happens.

[-] MamboGator@lemmy.world 58 points 7 months ago

If this were a recent phenomenon, I would agree with you. But western fascism didn't go away when the good times were rolling. It may have been quieter until recently, but these aren't just scared imbeciles struggling through 21st century inequality.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

didn't kill enough Nazis and now they own all the algorithms.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 48 points 7 months ago

You can blame all your problems on a specific demographic: the rich.

It's always been a class war.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago

Food and shelter slowly become unaffordable, mass layoffs as large corporations automate, and the planet itself burns. All to feed the richest human beings who have ever walked the earth with more wealth.

Weekdays crushing the hopes and dreams of everyone on earth. Weekends at Epstein’s island. Monsters in human form.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

you think they dont do the crushing from their phones at pedo island?

[-] qprimed@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

well, that escalated quickly. :,-(

[-] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In Germany, at least, those people aren't even worried about the real issues, like climate change, but about made-up issues like the green party destroying our economy (they're not), immigrants raping women left and right (they aren't) and that we aren't using nuclear energy anymore and are relying more and more on renewables (it's not causing any issues and pushing down energy price)

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

you literally described fascism

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

I dunno, when I get worried about stability the last thing I want to do is start attacking other people and creating even more enemies. I get that it’s not so simple and not so instantaneous a choice, but still.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

they care about certainty more than truth, so theres always a bit if disconnect.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

needing certainty more than truth is pathological as fuck.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago

Imagine being so filled with hate that you sympathize with Nazis.

I can’t.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 7 months ago

They don't sympathize with nazis. They see fascism as a necessary evil to preserve their power, which they value more than even the continuity of the species or the well-being of their descendants.

It's like the One Ring, you can argue you'll use it ethically or to do good, but ultimately it means employing Ringwraiths to take care of those who might stop you.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

That kind of feels like a distinction without a difference.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago

Read it this way: They don't sympathize with Nazis, rather they are Nazis. More accurately, they're what drives fascist movements of autocracy and genocide into popularity. They're not just on the inside, but at the heart.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

nor I.

and I'm really angry, so clearly it takes more than hate.

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Less than 100 years. It's pathetic. Bring on the nuclear winter.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

You're not getting out of climate change that easily.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yellowstone supervolcano eruption?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

If we're going to carve it up and sell it off to private interests, might as well.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 30 points 7 months ago

Eh, I live in the US where people still pine for the fucking confederacy because they love slavery and racism. Of course people are gonna keep the nazi hate machine going.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

didn't kill enough of em, I'm telling you. always the mistake.

[-] pumpkinseedoil@feddit.de 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's not like antisemitism prevented people from supporting the NSDAP (in many cases the opposite). Sure, when they were elected they didn't know what to do with Jews yet, but antisemitism was one of the pillars of their philosophy (if the people are unhappy you have to take responsibility or simply point at someone and say "they are responsible, it's their fault") and antisemitism has existed since forever. (Of course there were not only Jews in concentration camps but they were initially made for them).

And sadly antisemitism still exists today in many areas of the world.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

how fucked is it that my first thought on seeing that word was 'ugh more hezbarah bullshit' before remembering this is a thread about the other Nazis. fuck, they've denatured the word antisemitism.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Guess what they say is true: times change, people don't.

[-] Flipper@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

Its horrifying when you look at the election results in Germany how many are voting for the so called Afd.

They are all fascists directly from the book and a leader of a county party of the AfD. He regularly uses Methpors from the NS Regime. You can call him a fascist on the street without it being as that is a fact according to a court.

And still, they got 10% in the last generall election 2021.

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