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whats the context? im ootl on this one.
There's massive student protests for Palestine going on at American universities right now. The universities are calling in the police to arrest their students. Some have locked down their universities and moved to online-only lessons to ignore the protests.
Why do they care so much about the protests that they are having the students arrested? I don't get it. Just let them protest
Protest is generly seen as criminal or crime adjascent behaviour in the US in my experience. The average person is unable to see the bigger picture that protest slot into and even in cases like this where nobody is inconvenienced somebody or some institution will cry about it.
Yep. A lot of people are uninformed and see protest as a disruption. Most people, even educated have tunnel vision sometimes. The people that get the big picture are empathetic or considerate and usually the ones who protest.
US is not a freedom country, it is religious country. France is freedom country. "Liberté, égalité, fraternité".
I guess the graduation ceremony is coming up or something. At least that's the excuse I heard.
Students are walking out of class and "occupying" spaces, joined by non-campus outsiders sometimes. Police are calling it trespassing and arresting them if they don't disperse.
Students once again standing up for a populace having war brought to them courtesy of the US of A.
The Land of the Free*
* Unless you disagree with the mainstream narrative, in which case you should not be free.
"Courtesy of th US of A" is more anti-US fluff than bare truth. Netanyahu and those of power in Isreal are due far more credit. Everyone involved is shite.
i mean, the us of a is literally financing and enabling all of it...
No, political officials are enabling it. The majority of Americans do not support it, myself included. My initial point is that pointing the big fat finger at the US, while not mentioning the people LITERALLY killing eachother, is typical anti-US fluff. I get fed up with people doing that, even if I detest our involvement.
thats literally what we mean we we say the US is doing it.
the fact you support it or not doesnt currently bear any weight on what is happening, and will continue to happen in there.
My gripe comes from that first part, where the latter I agree with. The countries at war are to blame moreso than the enablers and profiteers ...Technically. I am not saying the US is innocent... but this isn't the US "doing it" we're aiding a crooked ally. I've read comments so often that seem to wholly blame the US. We're a super easy target to criticize, thus my calling the first statement anti-US fluff. Even if I'm arguing semantics.
the war on gaza literally could not happen if the US wasn't arming israel to the point they can be uncontested.
Could not CONTINUE, maybe... it's fucked that we provide any support. We aren't the only supporter here either, and I won't agree with "this is ALL America's fault!" like you're saying.
arguably israel wouldnt even exist today without the constant pumping of money and weapons by the US in the last 80 years or so.
We deserve plenty of credit and i think passing it off as fluff is pretty disheartening to be frank.
What about this whole debacle ISN'T disheartening? Blaming the US, pointedly, for something we're involved in IS moreso fluff... believe it or not, Isreal and Palestine are to blame. All other actors are just playing the same fucking role, as always, in the ever grinding meat-wheel of warfare. There are no "heartening" tales from this. I would LOVE to see the US have no involvement, for a change, but that's not how "allies" work. Geopolitical fuckery will ever stand in the way of true peaceful avoidance for any country tied to ones at war.
blaming the us in something the us is involved in is perfectly reasonable.
If you hadn't said "finanacing and enabling ALL of it", I'd agree. We aren't the country to bear the crux on all of this, even if we are playing second-banana. Palestinian extremists did a fucking awful thing, and then Israeli officials made it, somehow, worse.
i'm sorry but you are, the US has singlehandedly destroyed so many countries its not even funny.
No, we are not. Yes, we have.
those are two conflicting statements
Without our funding they couldn't do what they are doing. We are paying for the genocide. Take that shit somewhere else you liberal nazi.
Liberal Nazi? The fuck are you smoking?
Cut a liberal and a nazi bleeds
Admin at this school is suspending students based on their political beliefs. They use the bad faith arguments that opposing Israel is equivalent to antisemitism. The same tactics that the Chinese government has uses.
Oh shut the fuck up, you don't know shit about China and they have nothing to do with this. They actually support Palestinians unlike genocide Joe
https://prospect.org/world/is-tim-ryan-a-racist/