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The 45+ crowd will vote for him because they support isn'treal and are afraid of Drumpf but I think we're going to see a massive drop out of young voters. Probably too with the people who already don't vote to begin with, namely service workers who are fucked over either way with D's and R's.

And here I thought Biden was going to win in November, time to eat crow.

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[-] morte@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

It genuinely scares me that trump has a good chance of being elected

[-] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

In thinking about it, I'm actually slightly more scared of a Biden reelection. The actual policies will be just as horrible as they would be under another Trump admin, just look at the last 4 years for proof. But if Trump wins, all the blue maga libs will be screaming again about how the US is descending into fascism, which is true, they just don't understand the reasons or that it's true with Biden as well. Remember when they were upset about kids in cages on the border? It was because the rude orange man was doing it. When a dem does it, it's polite so it must be ok. Trump made for more room to be critical of US policies, both foreign and domestic, but mostly domestic. I don't think the George Floyd protests would have gone as far under a dem president. I don't think we would have gotten any economic relief for covid under a democrat president (even the measly token amount we did get). And while I don't think Trump will do anything to help end the genocide of Palestinians, it's at least slightly possible his pretense at an isolationist stance will make it harder to send hundreds of billions of dollars to Israel like Biden insists on doing. And again, anything Trump does to perpetuate the genocide, many more libs will (correctly, like a broken clock) see it as a bad thing.

Some might say this borders on accelerationism, but I disagree. There really was a material benefit to Trump being president beyond "things are going to get worse faster" because more people actually gave a shit about what was going on. Specifically, more people that have at least some wealth and power (like PMC turbolibs). As long as Biden is the imperial top dog, all the libs can go back to enjoying brunch, content in the knowledge that the supposed adults in the room are in control. If Biden wins a second term, it also makes it all the more clear that the democrats can literally and openly conduct a genocide and still get rewarded for it. That is more frightening to me than another 4 years of Trump, and I say that as a queer person belonging to a few demographics that Trump and the republicans are keen to target (that the democrats might sometimes give lip service to in order to maintain the facade that they don't also hate us).

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