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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 36 points 6 months ago

GNU nano is a nice easy text editor... but it's so clunky when you have become comfortable with vim (perhaps the same with Emacs).

[-] leo@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 81 points 6 months ago

The trick is to never get comfortable with Vim or Emacs.

*taps forehead*

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

Using nano as a vim user is a lot less clunky than trying to use vim as a vim non-user though.

Or so I would imagine, all of the vim novices are still too busy trying to exit vim to share their experiences.

[-] evatronic@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

The worst and best thing you can do when using vim is learn the movement keys (h, j, k, and l) because they're so powerful and work no where else.

[-] django@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 6 months ago

There is a vim mode available in a lot of other applications though.

[-] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

h and l are overrated, use w, b, e and f instead.

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago
[-] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

Thanks for the recommendation

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, doesn't work so well when you're not using qwerty though

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 points 6 months ago

That's not true. I'm on qwertz and I adore vim key bindings

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

Okay, perhaps I should have been clearer, that's on me.

I meant qwerty and related layouts.

Things like Dvorak and Colemak, the movement keys are spread across the keyboard and if you want to navigate that way you'll pretty much have to remap them, and probably remap the keys you've swapped. For me, it's just easier to use the arrows than go through that.

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago

I mean, yeah, of course. Vims default keys are made for the "regular" layouts. But you can Mal everything yourself if needed. I'm sure there are pre made mappings for other layouts too.

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

I might check that out

Using the arrows may not be the most efficient, but I'm not spending enough time in vim to make that be an issue... Though I've seriously considered trying to swap to it from VSCode

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago

I do pretty much all editing in vim. One you "force" yourself to use hjkl, there was no going back to arrow keys. Nowadays I Mal arrow keys to move lines up and down and add or remove indentation.

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Untrue, they also work in Nethack and other rogue-likes!

[-] lung@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Neat that it has this new modern binds mode where it understands normal copy paste and stuff

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago

I'm a little bit excited by that

[-] uranibaba@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I love nano for simple things, like writing commits. Anything more complex and I use Sublime Text.

[-] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 months ago

Also worth checking out helix editor. Once you do the tutorial it makes vim feel clunky

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

I think nano is good for quick and dirty editing.

Anything else should be done locally on your development machine with a GUI, then pushed to your server as an update.

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Yeah I love nano. I can use vim a little, enough to make a change and save the output. I can even exit vim!

But 9 times out of 10 if I need to edit a text file in a terminal window, I'm just making a quick config change - I need the terminal equivalent to notepad, not the terminal equivalent to an IDE.

Nano is exactly what I need, nothing more and nothing less.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago

Why insist on a GUI for anything else?

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

apt purge nano is one of the first things I do on a new Debian installation. Much easier to remember than having to use update-alternatives, select-editor and the $EDITOR variable to convince the likes of vigr,vipw, visudo,crontab -e,... that I really want to use vim as my primary editor.

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago

Honestly unreasonably infuriates me when I enter visudo and find myself in nano... Like, did I type nanosudo? Hell no!

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