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Among candidates for U.S. sanctions, Israel's Prison Service should be next on the list. This is apparently the realm where all the sadistic instincts of the minister of national security, Itamar Ben-Gvir, find their outlet.

On October 26, large forces of the Prison Service's Keter unit, a tactical intervention unit, accompanied by dogs, one of them unleashed, stormed into the prison. The wardens and the dogs went on a rampage, attacking the inmates whose screams left the whole prison in a state of terror, Abu Halil recalls. The walls were soon covered with inmates' blood. "You are Hamas, you are ISIS, you raped, murdered, abducted and now your time has come," said one warden to the prisoners. The blows that followed were brutal, the inmates were shackled.

The beatings became a daily affair. Occasionally the guards demanded of prisoners that they kiss an Israeli flag and declaim, "Am Yisrael Chai!" – "The People of Israel live." They were also ordered to curse the prophet Mohammed. The usual call to prayer in the cells was prohibited. The prisoners were afraid to utter any word starting with the sound "h" lest the guards suspect they had said "Hamas."

On October 29, the inmates of Abu Halil's cell requested a squeegee to wash the floor. The response to that was to send the terrifying Keter unit into their cell. "Now you will be like dogs," the guards ordered. The prisoners' hands were cuffed behind their back. Even before they were shackled, they were ordered to move only with their upper body bent over. They were led to the kitchen, where they were stripped and forced to lie one on top of the other, a pile of 10 naked prisoners. Abu Halil was the last. There, they were beaten with clubs and spat on.

A guard then started to stuff carrots into the anus of Abu Halil and other prisoners. Sitting at home now, reciting his story, Abu Halil lowers his gaze and the flow of words slows down. He's embarrassed to talk about this. Afterward, he continues, dogs hunched over them and attacked them. They were then allowed to put on their underwear before being led back to their cell, where they found their clothes thrown into a heap.

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[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Israel’s government/intelligence was aware of the impending attack and did nothing

Source?

[-] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

It's well known the Israeli government moved troops to the west bank to help settlers and many Israeli allies warned of chatter of an impending attack.

Here's one story but it's behind a paywall: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-20/ty-article-magazine/.premium/the-women-soldiers-who-warned-of-a-pending-hamas-attack-and-were-ignored/0000018b-ed76-d4f0-affb-eff740150000

Also Israel has delivered cash to hamas to prop them up to justify further violence against Palestinians: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee -3 points 6 months ago

I can't read the first link because of the paywall, but the summary says some spotters warned something was unusual over the past year but were ignored because they were women. The Israeli government probably got some kind of warning every day even before the attack. Concluding that they knew is a real leap.

Your second link, also paywalled link, says Netanyahu wanted a somewhat strong Hamas in order to keep things stable.

You haven't supported your claim.

[-] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Instead of writing paragraphs complaining that users and sourcing widely understood facts, you can spend a few seconds searching yourself.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

I can't find any reputable source saying Israel knew of this impending attack

I've done my research, where's your source?

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don't know what you consider a reputable source, but here's an article about it.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

I'll quote it again

Israel’s government/intelligence was aware of the impending attack and did nothing

I've seen the NYT, and it says right in the headline that Israeli officials dismissed it as beyond hamas' capabilities.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

OP has given evidence supporting their claim. The Israelis knew. That they knew and chose to ignore what they knew is exactly what OP is claiming. Not sure what you are sealioning about.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

Bullshit. The evidence is that they got information as part of a constant stream of intelligence and incorrectly deemed it unimportant.

OP claimed they knew of an imminent attack, implying they let it happen on purpose so they'd have justification for the current war.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They didn't imply anything. They were pretty explicit.

They wrote:

Let’s not forget we learned soon after Oct 7 that Israel’s government/intelligence was aware of the impending attack and did nothing. I’d wager my next paycheck that Führer Bibi saw the opportunity for an excuse to wipe out Gaza and let it happen.

You wrote:

"Israel’s government/intelligence was aware of the impending attack and did nothing." Source?

You didn't ask for a source for what they conjectured (which would have been fair), you asked for a source for what they based their conjecture on. You have received sources that confirm the basis of the conjecture.

For what it's worth, I also don't think Bibi on purpose let shit happen. But he was almost criminally negligent. I think Bibi on purpose chose to take a risk exposing the leftist peacenik kibbutzim at the south close to Gaza to protect the fascist extremists in the colonies. He risked the lives of the "wrong" Israelis to protect the delusions of the "right" Israelis. And now he is making the civilians of Gaza pay for what the Hamas snakes that he incubated for years ended up biting his people.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

I think the implication is a bright flashing light you can only miss by choice. And no, nobody has shared a source saying Israel knew of an impending attack and ignored it.

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