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How is it that on this one topic, all rational discourse is completely absent? I mean there's some topics where one side is completely irrational, sure. But when it comes to Israel-Palestine, everyone on all sides is just completely and often violently nonsensical.
It isn't.
Find me one rational argument about Israel and/or Palestine. Any one, from anywhere, at any time in history.
Genocide is wrong and Hamas is wrong.
This is the argument nearly everyone has been making forever.
A two-state solution is the only way the situation should end, and that should include the removal of Netanyahu and an end to Isreal's encroachment on Palestinian land. The people of the area have been failed by their governments.
Ok fine, this is a rational argument, although present company excepted I don't really find other people arguing both at the same time.
But this is where the mainstream views lose me and seem to grasp at something that everyone should be able to see is just not gonna work. You have the gaza strip on one side, the west bank on the other, and Israel in between. How can this be two countries? Is there any other country that's in 2 separate land masses with its adversary in the middle?
As I understand it, Israel would have to cede land to Palestine so that each can have a continuous land mass. That land was taken to from Israel in the first place, so it's not unreasonable for some of it to be taken back.
But of course Israel the government is not fond of that at all.
Found the Enlightened Centrist!
See that in itself is a perfect example because it's both a hasty generalization, and an ad hominem.
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I am utterly unconcerned by criticism from someone who wants to "both sides" a genocide.
Which thing that someone says is a genocide are you referring to? Because last I checked, "both sides" claim that the other is trying to genocide them.
And frankly, both are again engaging in hasty generalizations. There are people in Palestine who want a genocide in Israel, and people in Israel who want a genocide in Palestine. And many more in both that don't. But that latter bit is really inconvenient for everyone, isn't it?
Only one of those is actually happening
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