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Dare I ask what the man vs bear meme is all about and why it seems to be upsetting men so much? [CW: sexism] (hexbear.net)

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I don't go on social media so I don't really get it but I have seen memes here and there of women getting mauled by bears presented in a "heh, serves her right" kind of way.

So weird that dudes complain that they can't get women when the message they put out there is they hate women and make images of them being brutally mauled. what-the-hell

EDIT: I did not expect to see people I trust minimise SA here. I'm disappointed, that's something I expect from a random chud blowing in from another instance, not you guys. Most of you were extremely cool in your answers, but to the one or two that weren't. Do fucking better.

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[-] yoink@hexbear.net 58 points 6 months ago

actually that other comment wasn't enough, are you seriously suggesting that the only reason women are paranoid about SA and the culture around us permitting that is because they are too gullible? got too much anxiety from listening to podcasts and forgot about the real world?

seriously, Hexbear was the last place I expected to run into an argument trying to put it on women for being paranoid, this actually feels like a fucked comment to be making, i would genuinely reconsider what you're trying to put forward here

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago

[CW: rape]

It's wild that people think women just make this kind of shit up or exaggerate.

By the time I was 16, two of my underage friends had been raped. And I know it was true because one of them came from a very regious Christian family that forced her to keep the baby.

And that was just two close friends that I know about. Most people obviously aren't going to tell people they were raped.

Women are being killed, raped and left in dumpsters like trash all the time and people are still like "lol stop being hysterical". It's wild.

[-] yoink@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

it's actually insane to me too, you can very literally ask any femme-presenting person and they will have some experience of assault, and yet we still have to hear talk about 'you're just watching too much tv/listening to too many podcasts/need to live in the real world'

and that's not even getting into what you've touched on, which is that so many of those sexual assault experiences occur underage, but no it's mass hysteria to be even slightly worried about it

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

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[-] yoink@hexbear.net 48 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think Americans, (well, white Americans,) are much more paranoid about other people harming them than they should be.

I agree

As communists, are we not driven by a love and compassion for others?

One hundred percent, absolutely

I can’t count the number of times white people have told me stories where they “narrowly avoided harm” where there was literally no danger and the story is just “a homeless man was near me” or “a guy on the bus was talking to himself”

What I can't then square is this - as far as I can tell, this is an attempt to tar 'women being afraid of SA' with the same brush as an oppressed, reactionary group reacting in reactionary ways. My point was that you were actively trying to minimise the very real experiences of many victims of assault, and then you've gone on to do it again here

don't get me wrong, i get WHAT you're trying to say here, I understand what your concerns are but so far you've been unable to separate that concern from your opinion that women are exaggerating, or are at the very least being too receptive (?) of other's stories of assault. just about every comment of yours in this thread references the idea that women are paranoid because of 'True Crime Brain'. In this comment, you liken it to an oppressor being scared because of their very own propaganda about the people they're oppressing. Surely you can see how that's a bit off right?

[-] blakeus12@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

this was really well put

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'mma keep it an entire band w/ you: I do not trust white folk to not be on some harmful shit anymore. I believe most folk who's not a settler is good; I don't extend that out to those who cape or cosign; and I've especially stopped extending it to white men. To quote a bunch of the women I've seen chatting this subject on TikTok, I'd rather the bear.

At least I know the worst a bear can do is eat me; a man? A white man? There ain't no telling what he could do or how he could spin it after the fact. And with the color of my skin, there's no telling if said white man will even do any kind of time or have to pay any kind of restitution for what he did to me. Might find me swinging off a branch, coroner found SA evidence, and two bullet holes in the back of my spine and good ol' Troy Michael Hunter the last verifiable person who saw me sittin there like "iunno how they got up there, musta been s/!" I'd rather the bear.