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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by Cloak@lemmy.ml to c/reddit@lemmy.world

Historically, I've perceived Reddit as slightly left leaning, with strong pockets of conservatives. Recently though, a vast majority of comment sections seem to excuse violence, such as in this thread (TW: police brutality), where people say things like

TW: Supporting violence

The students didn’t hurt the bullets, right?

They paid to learn so....... You go learn today

Um...good?

Follow the rules of the people who own the property. If they ask you to leave then leave. Don’t interfere with people’s incomes or you’ll end up finding the fuck out

Got it. The next time I stand on a private piece of grass that I paid 200 grand for the privilege of using, I should expect to be shot at like I deserve. I'll keep that in mind.

When the owner of the property wants you to move on? Yeah. Move on. Or don’t and find out.

And I'm seriously wondering when Reddit got so bad that the hivemind supports calls for violence. Are these humans? Are they bots? Why does reddit allow this conduct?

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[-] stembolts@programming.dev 62 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Conservatives have a lot to gain by building bots to antagonize and convert naive young (and old) people by plastering their dumb ideas everywhere. It's marketing, if you're cruel and dumb they want you on their team.

Why do they allow it? Many reasons I'd guess.. engagement , capitalism, shared-beliefs.

Controversial things generate engagement.
Engagement generates profits.
Many of the decision makers are narcissistic conservatives who think the same thing, but instead of saying it they just enable it, indirectly achieving the same goal as hate-evangelizing.

A surprising amount of people want to watch the world burn, as long as they can do it from a balcony.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 27 points 6 months ago

A surprising amount of people want to watch the world burn, as long as they can do it from a balcony.

I do believe I'm going to borrow this one.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

It's also so, so, sooooooo easy to post right wing bullshit because it's always emotional shallow and without any nuance.

So if you say immigrants are stealing all our jobs and committing crimes all over our country! People are already getting riled up, while I have to spend 5 minutes explaining that while we have to secure our borders immigrants aren't the cause of all our woes.

And while I'm in the middle of my 5 minute explanation debunking your first horseshit point, you interject "Gays are over running our schools and molesting our kids!"....

So yea... The truth has a huge disadvantage in the online space because it's so easy to spread lies.

[-] stembolts@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The bullshit asymmetry principle.

It takes far more text to disprove bullshit than spout the bullshit itself.

Then, to prevent your followers from reading the debunking, introduce, "Lol libs sure do write a lot, they do that because they are dumb and triggered!"

And, "I love the poorly educated" (because they haven't been taught how to apply reason to arguments so they can't see through my historically well-known hate tactics because they don't read books.)

But they do understand, "Sleepy Joe!" "Crooked Hillary!"

So yeah, you're encountering bullshit asymmetry, it sucks and our job is hard, but hey, since we are on the topic of slogans, let me paraphrase a famous one. "We do this thing or that thing not because it is easy, but because it is hard."

The decision you are left with is knowing when to talk and when to walk away from someone who isn't ready to listen.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Conservatives have a lot to gain by building bots to antagonize and convert naive young (and old) people by plastering their dumb ideas everywhere. It’s marketing, if you’re cruel and dumb they want you on their team.

Because their opinions are unpopular as fuck, even amongst their own base, so they have to resort to paying propagandists and social manipulators to spam accounts and posts about their shit to make it seem more popular than it is, in the hopes of converting some of their idiot base by making them go "WELL SO MANY PEOPLE (BOTS) ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS, IT MUST BE POPULAR, THERE FOR I MUST LIKE IT OR I FAIL CONSERVATISM"

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

A surprising amount of people want to watch the world burn, as long as they can do it from a balcony.

"I never thought the ~~leopards would eat my face~~ fire would spread to my building!"

[-] stembolts@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago

Exactly, my theory is they are too narcissistic to realize that fire will spread to their metaphorical balcony.. idk. My own theory seems dumb to me, how could they be so shortsighted?

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

My own theory seems dumb to me, how could they be so shortsighted?

There are countless events in human history where that question could be asked. Thinking long-term about the health of the environment and the species just doesn't seem to be within human capability.

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