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In Season Four, the world is on the brink. Victoria Neuman is closer than ever to the Oval Office and under the muscly thumb of Homelander, who is consolidating his power. Butcher, with only months to live, has lost Becca’s son and his job as The Boys’ leader. The rest of the team are fed up with his lies. With the stakes higher than ever, they have to find a way to work together and save the world before it’s too late.

comic spoilerFrom the fact the they got the virus, Neuman is going to win the presidency and the new black noir looks like they are going with an adaptation of the ending of the comics with homelanders coup and butcher trying to do genocide

I wonder what will they change the may make homelanders coup super january 6 which would be very funny

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[-] edge@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

I can't wait to read about whatever fucked up shit happens. It's an interesting show and I'd like to watch it, but I can't really stomach it. Just reading the things that happen has me kind of sick.

cw: some of the fucked up shit that happensThe exploding heads thing triggers some sort of extra empathetic response in me. Like they didn't just die, their entire being (as in, their brain) was completely destroyed out of nowhere.

Also the circumstances and magnitude of the event would change politics forever, but nah just use a convenient scapegoat and don't worry about it.

[-] MoonJellyfish@lemmy.today 8 points 5 months ago

That fucked up shit is the best part

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I’m that way with torture. Like, even though it’s all literally acting I had to bow out of Game of Thrones with all the torture and mutilation they did to Theon Greyjoy.

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I watched the first two seasons when I was better able to handle the extreme gore. I tried watching the third season when it dropped and I couldn't make it past the first scene. Shit fucked me up a little.

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

Was that the exploding dick scene? It was the most creatively traumatizing thing I've ever seen. I had a visceral empathic reaction, I think I curled up under my covers

[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

You are correct. Put me right off the rest of the season because of how fucked up it was.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 5 months ago

I don't really care, but I think it could be less gory and get more people to watch. With Fallout my wife like it, but after a couple of episode with pretty explicit gore stuff she said that she couldn't and I had to finish the show alone, a shame.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I really don't think of the brain that way and neither should you. "You" are more than just your brain and when the electrochemical processes that constitute your mind cease there's no bringing them back whether or not it's intact.

Also maybe I just spent too much time on 4chan in my 20s or my near-constant thoughts of self harm have desensitized me over the years but none of the gore in The Boys phases me, at least on a visceral level. Cringing at the pain and horror living people experience is one thing, but people being instantly killed in flashy ways is, to the person dying, exactly the same as a fatal aneurysm. Painless. (This is not a good thing, I don't think.)

[-] edge@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

"You" are more than just your brain

The self exists entirely within the brain, everything else is to keep the brain alive.

and when the electrochemical processes that constitute your mind cease there's no bringing them back whether or not it's intact.

Yeah I know, but it just feels worse for some reason.

[-] fox@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

Your self is inextricable from your body. A brain in a jar is an empty void with no inputs or outputs, and increasingly psychology and neurology recognize this and look at the brain-body system more holistically. To think of any organ of the body as its core component is silly, as all of them act in unison to support each other.

[-] edge@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago

Nah, the self is the series of electrical signals in your brain. The self is composed of memory, emotions, thoughts, and personality, those are the things that make you you. Memory, emotions, and thoughts are in the brain and personality is basically derived from those (i.e. life experiences).

A brain in a jar may have no inputs or outputs, but it could still be cognizant. It might not be an amazing experience, but it would be. Your thoughts would still be going. It also could have inputs and outputs through a brain computer interface.

Think about your inputs and outputs. You’re still the same person if you go blind, deaf, mute, lose your limbs, whatever (although from that point forward you'll have radically different life experiences). All of those senses are ways for the brain to navigate the physical world it exists in. They influence the self, but they are not the self.

look at the brain-body system more holistically all of them act in unison to support each other

Yes, but that doesn’t make it all part of the self. It’s a complex system but it’s all to keep the brain alive.

Think about what death, cessation of the self, is from a physical standpoint. What forms of death are there? What physically happens in those forms of death? The answer is that brain death is the only actual form of death, everything else is brain death resulting from [whatever]. Some system in the body fails, ultimately stopping oxygen from reaching the brain, which means it stops working.

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