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Image is of Stepanakert, essentially the capital of Nagorno-Karabakh. It is now a ghost city, and Azerbaijan has recently torn down the parliament building and various other important places. Sourced from this article.


Despite the predictions and assertions of various NATO-aligned commentators that Russia's influence is waning, the opposite generally appears to be occurring. ASEAN has become more strongly aligned with Russia despite claims to the contrary. In Central Asia, there has been a propaganda push to declare that countries there are "emerging from Russia's shadow", while in reality, as Bhadrakumar analyzes, Russia's significant economic growth and ongoing march towards victory in Ukraine is creating opportunities for further integration, not separation, and there are no major political shifts there in terms of Russian ties. And in Niger, Russian soldiers have now entered an airbase which once hosted American soldiers, now kicked out, and generally Russia's diplomacy and economic deals (nuclear power plant construction, military equipment, grain shipments, etc) have accelerated in Africa.

Where Russia's influence has actually seemed to decrease (outside of the West, of course) is in Armenia. Nagorno-Karabakh's remarkably rapid collapse in late 2023 demonstrated that Russia was not willing to escalate things in defense of Armenia to fend off Azerbaijan. One hundred thousand Armenians - most but not all of them in the region - fled in advance to avoid mass persecution, which received remarkably little attention by a West which calls itself overwhelmingly concerned with borders changing due to military action as in Ukraine. Since then, Armenia seems to be on some kind of self-annihilating bender, allured by the potential of Western military and economic deals. Armenia froze its membership in the CSTO due to its failure to protect them, and the head of NATO, Stoltenberg, visited the region in March. The West has offered up hundreds of millions of dollars in assistance to Armenia and is helping them "modernize their military"; given the poor track record of Western military equipment in Ukraine, one wonders why they're even bothering. RAND has advocated for a balancing act; America should, in their eyes, realize that they can't entirely remove Russia's influence but nonetheless should make inroads to protect Armenia from Azerbaijan (which is an interesting position given that Israel provided arms to Azerbaijan to help them take Nagorno-Karabakh).

A quick look at Armenia's geographical position reveals the folly of trying to create some kind of Western outpost. With a hostile Azerbaijan to their east, a very unfriendly (albeit NATO member) Turkiye to their west, an ascendant Iran to their south, and Russia not far from the action, there is little hope of doing much more than causing a little chaos in the hopes it'll momentarily distract Russia while it makes inroads most everywhere else on the planet. The political situation appears miserable for Pashinyan, but there isn't really a popular alternative to take the reins. A truly cursed situation.


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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful. Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
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https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 92 points 6 months ago

Reposting this one posting

he-admit-it

Blinken says Israel’s propaganda fails to work because social media allows people see exactly what is happening without any ability to mediate it, and the imagery is very emotional. Romney then says yes, that’s why they've banned TikTok

https://streamable.com/mqhiqn

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 64 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I love how they use the term PR as though that isn't just the new word for propaganda. Also, fucking blinken pretending that traditional media gives people the needed context and history to understand something lol. Any person I know who gets their info from TV news, and even the news paper have the least amount of context. They just regurgitate statements as facts without ever engaging their own brain. This isn't to say that the social media slop machine is inherently better at providing context and history (like Facebook has melted the brain of many boomers), but that info is there if you know how to look for it.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Our Public Relations. Their Regime Propaganda.

[-] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 51 points 6 months ago

I wonder if fully admitting that tiktok hurts their narrative might aid in whatever legal challenges tiktok will bring

[-] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

This is America, the rules are whatever the guy with money says they are

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 42 points 6 months ago

yea, cable TV anchors are great at historical materialism

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago
[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

Romney ranting about China being simply too good at the economy is another highlight. He sez it's because they don't have the fine and noble antitrust laws that we totally have and enforce.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

SENATOR ROMNEY: Why has the PR been so awful? I know that’s not your area of expertise, but you have to have some thoughts on that, which is, I mean, as you’ve said, why has Hamas disappeared in terms of public perception? An offer is on the table to have a ceasefire, and yet the world is screaming about Israel. It’s like, why are they not screaming about Hamas? Accept the ceasefire and bring home the hostages. Instead, it’s all the other way around. I mean, typically the Israelis are good at PR. What’s happened here? How have they – how have they/ and we/ been so ineffective at communicating the realities there and our point of view?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: Look, I mean, there are two things. One is that, look, there is an inescapable reality, and that is the inescapable reality of people who have and continue to suffer grievously in Gaza. And that’s real and we have to – have to – be focused on that and attentive to that.

At the same time, how this narrative has evolved, yeah, it’s a great question. I don’t have a good answer to that. One can speculate about what some of the causes might be. I don’t know. I can tell you this – and we were talking about this a little bit over dinner with Cindy. I think in my time in Washington, which is a little bit over 30 years, the single biggest change has been in the information environment. And when I started out in the early 1990s, everyone did the same thing. You woke up in the morning, you opened the door of your apartment or your house, you picked up a hard copy of The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal. And then if you had a television in your office, you turned it on at 6:30 or 7 o’clock and watched the national network news.

Now, of course, we are on an intravenous feed of information with new impulses, inputs every millisecond. And of course, the way this has played out on social media has dominated the narrative. And you have a social media ecosystem environment in which context, history, facts get lost, and the emotion, the impact of images dominates. And we can’t – we can’t discount that, but I think it also has a very, very, very challenging effect on the narrative.

SENATOR ROMNEY: A small parenthetical point, which is some wonder why there was such overwhelming support for us to shut down potentially TikTok or other entities of that nature. If you look at the postings on TikTok and the number of mentions of Palestinians relative to other social media sites, it’s overwhelmingly so among TikTok broadcasts. So I’d note that’s of real interest, and the President will get the chance to make action in that regard.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And you have a social media ecosystem environment in which context, history, facts get lost

oh yeah the benefit of broadcast media is they always give so much context and history! guise, remember when headline TV news would do a scary two minute report about Norf Korbea and they would spend the first ten minutes detailing US atrocities during the Korean War?

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

A small parenthetical point, which is some wonder why there was such overwhelming support for us to shut down potentially TikTok or other entities of that nature.

Why would you admit this on air lol

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

our dedication to provide context and history by mediating public information and removing misinformation versus their totalitarian, Orwellian brainwashing propaganda created by evil communist regimes

[-] ThanksObama5223@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

I know people who see and acknowledge this kind of thing but fell headfirst into the ruzzia bad narrative following the smo, absolutely scoffing at the idea that the western press isn't free or independent. I have a really hard time getting americans to carry over any skepticism from one "media event" (for lack of a better term) to another. its infuriating.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Its infuriating but also funny. You establish the fact that the western media is lying left right and center for israel. Then you ask "and what did they say about the Russia ukraine conflict?" and they say "oh that's different" and you say "who told you its different? the same media that is telling you lies to support genocide." and they say "but russia ebil!" And you say "who told you Russia is evil?" and they say "The media are right on this one though!" and you say "like they were right about WMDs in Iraq?" and they say "no but that was different" and you say. You are a deeply unserious person.

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