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[-] credo@lemmy.world 193 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

50,000 cycles

Wow, a lifetime of 137 years at one cycle per day. This could make off-grid systems mainstream.

[-] SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee 73 points 6 months ago

Long-time offgridder here. Would love to have a reasonable alternative to lead-acid or lithium. Opted for lead-acid again on the last battery swap around 5 years ago. Squeezed about 12 years out of the last set -though they were pretty degraded by that time. This bank is depreciating faster, probably because of increased use.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lead acid batteries seem to be less and less reliable lately. The warranties are shorter and shorter as well, which is the best supporting evidence I have beyond needing batteries more often for the 4-5 vehicles I maintain.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 6 months ago

For real. It will take up a lot more space than lithium, but if it lasts way longer and should end up being cheaper, it would definitely be the winning choice. Solar array on the roof and a huge outdoor battery in a shed against the house and no more electric bill, ever.

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 6 months ago

Build your walls out of batteries and tile your roof with solar panels

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 37 points 6 months ago

Make firefighter's jobs a lot easier. Hell you don't even need a firetruck to tell the people outside "Yeah, it's fucked, nobody's coming out of there"

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Sounds like a fire hazard.

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 6 months ago

Batteries degrade with age too. It would probably have to be cycled 10 times a day to get that many cycles.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

I could see that happening if these are used in gas hybrid cars, or ev taxis, or maybe grid scale energy buffering

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

They may work for non plug in hybrids, which have quite small batteries that cycle a lot, but the energy density is far too low for full EV vehicles.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 6 months ago

Not likely, these are big and heavy and will likely be industrial.

[-] htrayl@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

... Sodium Ion are already being sold in EVs.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 6 months ago

I had thought this maker had lower energy to weight density than the JAC, but I stand corrected.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

The shitty thing right now is grid connection is required by pretty much any building code, and the utilities are getting wise to solar. They're moving a lot of the fees from power use to connection and line maintenance. My family was looking at solar, but since 2/3 of their power bill is just to be connected to the grid it wouldn't save enough to make economic sense.

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