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[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 161 points 6 months ago

One death is coincidental, two is suspicious, any more and it’s gonna become plainly obvious, and now there’s 10. That’s just delicious. They can’t silence them all.

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 82 points 6 months ago

1 dead whistleblower is a tragedy. 10 dead whistleblowers are a statistic.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So in other words, very plausible deniability.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/heart-attack-gun

We had that tech in 1968. I'm pretty sure it would be a matter of a phone call and some change from the couch cushions for Boeing to create the recent outcome.

Does this mean they did it? No.

Does it warrant the reaction folks are having about it? Absolutely yes. (Edit - In light of their current troubles and the fate of the prior whistleblower.)

[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 7 points 6 months ago

which could cause death in minutes without leaving a trace.

Aside from the puncture wound.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

From the article:

All that would be left behind was a tiny red dot where the dart entered the body, undetectable to those who didn’t know to look for it.

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 7 points 6 months ago

They may have ironed that out, this article is talking about tech that is more than half a century old. We got from first aeroplane to man on the moon in less than that.

[-] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Which can be missed by an examiner

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Well that’s it. Case closed. The existence of a heart attack gun in 1968 proves Boeing killed 2 whistleblowers in 2024. Good job gang.

Literally no one has made that statement, including me, the guy who brought up the heart attack gun. Take a breath man.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago
[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Does this mean they did it? No.

Does it warrant the reaction folks are having about it? Absolutely yes. (Edit - In light of their current troubles and the fate of the prior whistleblower.)

I stand by that statement, and don't feel like trying again to connect the dots on the relevancy of my example for you. Whatever you are arguing about is - not the same.

[-] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago

And it is suspected that thousand of elderly people are murdered every year, but it is ruled as a natural death, because the demographic is prone to natural deaths and nobody bothers to check further.

At the very least demanding a throughout investigation in both cases is absolutely reasonable.

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[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

The first wasn't coincidental. He said "hey they might murder me" then he died right before testifying.

Well, iirc he didn’t show for his deposition, or the day after, or the day after that, at which point the lawyers sent people to find him and found he “committed suicide”.

This is after he said “I am absolutely not going to commit suicide over this. If I die and people say it was suicide, I was killed.”

[-] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Even one death under these circumstances is not a coincidence, and that ought to be coded into law. You'd better fucking well hope the person who blows a whistle on you is healthy - that's the world we should move towards. Not that that couldn't also be abused, but the pendulum is way too fucking far this way.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 5 points 6 months ago

Can't or won't?

Seriously, though, I wouldn't be surprised, if a bunch of suicides or "retractions" are happening soon.

How about 2 million if you shut up? No? How about we publish this dirt on you? Would be a shame, if some nameless robber orphans your children.

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Any serious issue should have a paper trail of some sort. Emails, meetings, part rejections, that sort of thing. There are processes in place to allow anonymous reporting of some of these things.

[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Planely obvious

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

But you wont argue that 10 dead whistblowers can still be a tremendous coincidence, right?

[-] Veneroso@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

How is your polonium tea comrade?

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I still don't see why they can't.

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