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Your knowledge might be incorrect, I believed that before too but it seems to have never been used like that, it has always been against the Jews. Word usage is sometimes not aligned with etymology.
Bottom of the introduction https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
I never said it had been used like that, just if the term was not being used properly when you considered the meaning of the root word.
You said:
The present meaning as well as the original meaning when it was coined was referring to Jewish people, even if it doesn't align with its etymology. So using it to name hate against Jewish people is correct.
That also implies that using antisemitism to name hate against Arabic would be incorrect. Though you may try to redefine the term, write a couple of articles and books and maybe in 50 years it will be considered correct usage.
Okay if you are going to quote me please quote it fully.
Also if you had read further down the Wikipedia article you would have seen this paragraph
So there is some historical use where it refers to more than just Jewish people.
Oh and I looked up this Ernest Renan. He was a very hateful guy. He definitely hated Jewish people, though he pretty much hated everyone that wasn't white and Christian. He probably had mixed feelings about anyone who wasn't French too.
Look I have no agenda here. I am not trying to diminish real racism. I just find it interesting that a word has changed the common understanding of its root word.
I also find it interesting that both the Arabic and Hebrew greetings. Have the same root word, sound very similar, and both translate to peace. It just doesn't feel relevant to my original comment.
Edit forgot the word greetings
I don't think you have any agenda. I think nothing else that what I wrote, especially because I used to think like what you wrote before, so I wanted to help you and other readers with more information. I quoted what is the most obviously incorrect in your comment. The information you added now doesn't change the fact that this quote is incorrect.
Well you are entitled to your opinion. I do find it pretty bold of you though to assume you know how I think.
I don't assume anything about you, I'm strictly answering to your comment and nothing else. Considering the multiple sources backing up the claim in the Wikipedia article, I don't think it's just my opinion.