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[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Why are we involved? It's not our territory, it's not our business, it's not our problem.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 months ago

Innocent people are dying and we're providing the weapons to kill them. If we're not gonna be involved, at least stop sending weapons. But even better: let's try to stop people from being killed.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

We do not live in isolation in the world. Experience has shown that isolationism delivers very negative consequences

The US has always brokered deals in the middle east, and the reason has been oil, I reckon. In this case the parties aren't talking directly, so the US uses its allies of Egypt and Qatar to talk to Hamas while we talk to Isreal.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Experience has shown that isolationism delivers very negative consequences

There is a lot of ground between being an isolationist hermit like North Korea and getting involved in conflicts that we need not be involved in. I would say our involvement in the Middle East has done more harm than good. We are the reason Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan are in the conditions they are in, for instance.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago

We are hardly the reason why Iran and Afghanistan are in their present condition. Afghanistan was a theocracy before we showed up as it is now. Not that we didn't try to instill democracy, but we failed. Iran was carved out by western powers and had a revolution making it a theocracy, which it is now. The US did take a dictatorship in Iraq and moved it to Democracy.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

The US overthrew the democratically elected president of Iran and installed the authoritarian Shah in his place, setting the stage for the Islamic revolution that took place in the 70s.

Not that we didn't try to instill democracy, but we failed.

Exactly. We tried to install a democracy in another country, through military force, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in the process. We shouldn't meddle in the affairs of other countries, even, and especially, if we think we are doing it for noble reasons.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

A lot of times the military force just happens to be there. Rather than leaving a vacuum, the US promotes democracy. There are countries, like Japan, that are happy we do that

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

There are countries, like Japan, that are happy we do that

I don't care. I do not support my country unilaterally using military force to protect the interests of some countries, against others. We should not be the world's police. No country should be in such a position of total power.

this post was submitted on 07 May 2024
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