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[-] technom@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago

The vast majority of Linux users consider systemd as a good thing because it apparently makes system administration easier. They also don't agree that systemd is monolithic, because it's actually designed modular.

But of course there are detractors. The only thing I like about systemd is its declarative service definition and parallel service startup. But if I wanted to run an OS with bloated and inscrutable software (even with the source code), my choice wouldn't be Linux or Systemd.

I also routinely switch parts of my OS. This is harder with systemd. Although it is modular, the modules are so tightly coupled that it will prevent the replacement of modular components with alternatives. Frankly, I think systemd is killing the innovation in system component development.

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah... Not sure how everyone lets them get away with calling it "modular" when it's next to impossible to swap out the modules

[-] Zucca@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

because it’s actually designed modular

Oh? Try to use systemd without logind or journald. logind isn't so bad, but journald was bad enough, that I gave up with systemd.

[-] technom@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

I use Gentoo with OpenRC. So my position in this matter should be clear. Anyway, check the last paragraph again to see what I think about systemd's modularity.

[-] Zucca@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

Yes. I agreed with you. But I made it sound like something else. Bad wording on my side.

As I'm too Gentoo openrc user. I also use seatd+greetd instead of (e)logind and replacing sysvinit with openrc-init. The availability of choices made me do it!

[-] technom@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

Oh! I misunderstood. Sorry! Glad to meet a fellow Gentoo here!

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