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Marijuana is its own special category, but club drugs (which for some reason include date rape drugs), inhalants and steroids are all in a "miscellaneous" category together?

Also, note all the ridiculous drug propaganda lies.

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 32 points 6 months ago

Marijuana being a gateway drug.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago

Also being the most abused drug. I'd say that would be caffeine. There are more people who take caffeine daily than cannabis. But this seems to be about "bad" drugs, not "good" drugs.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

I'd give it to alcohol, not caffeine personally. I wouldn't say most people "abuse" caffeine, they just drink it.
Abuse to me implies having a negative impact, and I can think of more people who have been negatively impacted by weed than by caffeine, but way more from alcohol than either, and with a significantly more negative impact.

I know people who smoke too much and it's definitely made them stagnate in life and gain a lot of weight.
I know people who drink way too much caffeine and get insomnia, leading to a cycle of discomfort and heartburn from all the coffee.
I know people who drank too much alcohol and died, or developed terrible health complications.

Most people are totally fine with all of them, but alcohol is easily the worst and most common.

[-] warlaan@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago

It doesn't say that I'm the text. It literally says that it is CALLED a gateway drug because of what SOME people do.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

Yup, that's a good one. Gateway drug notion is generally iffy at the absolute most generous.

This one wasn't as "smoking the weed will make you do heroin and die" as others, just "some people do other things after doing this one", but it's still not super worth mentioning.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 6 points 6 months ago

What are you supposed to do? Start with meth?

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah, that's the thought. That or ecstacy or something.
In reality, it's mostly that it's so common that everyone who might do "hard drugs" would have been exposed to pot as just background noise, like alcohol or chocolate ice cream.

It only gets a shade of credence because there have been studies indicating that some people start with pill based drugs and then just leave it at that with a "hard drug" incidence rate lower than someone who smoked pot.
The sample sizes are so small that the only real conclusion someone can draw is that it's not definitely false and it needs more study. But it's not that important, so funding is slow and unlikely.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah my bullshit detector is going off for the pills thing as well. The fact that they're pills (small, compact, no smoking/smell) would skew it heavily.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

It is funny to picture the hypothetical person they need to find to interview for the data though.

This is Larry.
Larry once took a Valium he wasn't prescribed at a friend's house, but Larry respects his body too much to smoke weed.
Larry is addicted to intravenous heroin.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago

Larry takes the L

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago

That was the only thing that popped out to me.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I mean that's been a "thing" since at least the late 80s. Not that i think its accurate but its all too common an opinion you will find that isnt completely batshit crazy.

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago

DARE came to my HS in the mid-late 80s. A cop was standing at a table with various things on it. One of which was a big bag of weed. I said,"Damn! That's a big bag of weed!" The cop replied, totally seriously,"THAT'S ENOUGH WEED TO KILL YOU!!!" My friends and I just laughed and walked away.

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