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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's the Overton window. If the right ideas keep losing, then the left ideas have more say. If the right wing ideas don't win you elections, they slowly fade away. If left wing ideas win you elections, the the whole Overton window goes to which left wing ideas will win.

Like dude you just listed off the entire Overton window that they're appealing to because it won them an election and might win them another election. Like you just did it! Why do those talking points even exist? Because it won and could win again. Shut those out by voting. Tell them resoundingly that there's no chance of winning on those ideas, and then the Overton window can move left.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

The Overton windows slides right during a Democrat presidency. Just slower

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Dude you didn't address anything I said, just a glib catchphrase that's frankly wrong. But in good faith I'll discuss:Depends on the circumstances. Clinton and Biden running against incumbents had to be even more center, although Biden is acting more left than what he ran. But you want to suggest Obama with Obamacare was right? Yeah no. And Biden is left than what he ran: IRA, chips act, marijuana, etc. Sorry your little catchphrase is inaccurate.

And if you want even more inaccuracy, get dem president and Congress majority for 20 years straight and watch it move. Because, as I said, you can't do what you want when there's a real chance of losing. Then more left ideas in the party get more attention and traction. Which is, you guessed it, the Overton window.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago
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